Many people in our society are now living into their late 80's and 90's, but it is also apparent that a large percentage of them have chronic illnesses, injuries and conditions that make life miserable and often virtually intolerable. Then you factor in the massive and heroic utilization of resources for their care, the dramatic toll taken upon the caretakers, family and person in care. I know from personal experience that people are bankrupted, suffer from mental distress and illness, are "stuck" in facilities which provide a low standard of minimal care, and express a desire to end their lives, praying not to wake up the next day. Would it not be more humane to allow euthenasia and release those who suffer the most intensely from their pain and torment? What would you prefer if you found yourself in this situation? Unfortunately many of these human beings are in our society deemed legally disabled from making such a decision for their own care.
Here's a Bronx Cheer for you today.
In any case, there is nothing offensive here except to people deciding to be offended. This is now an octogenarian couple who are both stroke survivors. Yeah, Lea, I think Alva’s done taking the 38 Geary to Kaiser anymore. She’s very fortunate she has a daughter who is overseeing things.
Until you went off, I was going to be quiet about the whole “oh she can’t “die with dignity” spiel that you, Lealonnie, personally went off on because she’s not cognitively able anymore. Either was fil right after his stroke! He regained his mentation so that if he wanted to he could pursue that or whatever else he wanted to, because he got better. So for you of all people to even intimate she will not regain the cognitive function to take back her arrangements for maid is just not correct in all stroke cases. And if you are in fact correct about your assumption, Alva would need 24/7 care for the rest of her life.
So quit jumping my stuff, Lea. I mean, you of ALL PEOPLE should know how valuable it is to have children who can drop what they’re doing to help you or their stepdad. Alva is very fortunate she has a daughter that is present to help, and if the couple finds themselves in a ccrc the next county over it will be just fine.
"Woman Euthanized Against Her Will in Canada at Husband's Request"
https://www.christianpost.com/news/woman-euthanized-against-her-will-in-canada-at-husbands-request.html
I reviewed what ChatGPT had to say about it. It cited the husband's CAREGIVER BURNOUT as a reason to move forward...
"This is a real case in Ontario, Canada involving an elderly woman’s death under the Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) program has been reported and reviewed by official authorities. But the claim “euthanized against her will at her husband’s request” oversimplifies a complex and contested situation.
Here’s what’s known from credible reporting and an official review:
✅ What actually happened (based on reports and the Ontario review):
An elderly woman in Ontario (referred to in reports as “Mrs. B”) experienced complications after heart surgeryand initially expressed interest in MAiD.
She later told an assessor she wanted to withdraw her MAiD request, citing personal and religious beliefs, and asked for palliative (hospice) care instead.
Her hospice referral was denied due to eligibility and resource criteria.
>>> Her husband, who was struggling with caregiver burnout, continued to seek another MAiD assessment. <<<
A second MAiD assessor judged her eligible, despite concerns from the first assessor about coercion and lack of clarity on her wishes.
A third assessor then confirmed eligibility, and she received MAiD later that same day.
⚠️ Important Nuances
It was not legally a case of a husband simply demanding euthanasia — Canada’s MAiD system requires assessors and medical eligibility, and multiple professionals were involved.
The official review raised serious concerns — including that her request was reversed, that she was denied palliative care, and that the process happened very quickly with possible undue influence from her husband’s situation.
Some commentators interpret the case as euthanasia “against her will,” but this reflects debate about consent and process, not a legal finding that someone committed murder or acted with malicious intent.
📌 Context About Canada’s MAiD System
Canada legalized Medical Assistance in Dying in 2016 and allows it for adults who meet specific criteria, including voluntary and informed consent.
Cases like this one have sparked debate about whether safeguards are strong enough to ensure true voluntariness, especially when caregivers are overwhelmed or palliative options are limited.
Bottom line:
This is a documented case in Ontario where an elderly woman’s MAiD procedure went forward even though she reportedly withdrew her request. It has been widely reported and reviewed, and it has generated controversy and policy concern. But the situation involves multiple clinical assessments and legal procedures, and it’s not as simple as a husband “ordering” her euthanasia without oversight."
After dad passed, mom shared that he really wanted to kill himself but was worried about his insurance policies finding out. Which no one would have had to hear about with a cocktail containing a week’s worth of those two things alone. But
While I agree with you on many points and I am rather against MAIDs or see it as DIY, however it is freedom of choice.
This article about Mrs. B is somewhat misleading. MAIDs is very strictly controlled and only person receiving it can make request and has every right to refuse till the end. Furthermore, it is strictly confidential and our privacy laws are taken seriously, he must have obtained info from not quite reliable source.
In Canada, I don’t believe palliative care or hospice would be denied to anybody, many people choose to go to hospice facilities which are getting better with special care and rooms for visitors to stay in. Caregiver burnout exists, but as much as our medical system is going downhill, it is relatively easy to arrange facility. For those who cannot afford it, it would be rather nominal amount.