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I’m just super surprised, if your mother has been independent since the late 80s, that she doesn’t value her independence more! I’ve supported myself since I was 18 years old, and support a family since I was 23 years old. I now live with my daughter and son-in-law and can’t wait to get the heck out of here! Is your mom so frail or needy that she really needs to live with someone? She probably needs a counselor to help figure out why she can’t be independent, unless she’s quite old and frail. Even then, I’d rather be a ward of the state, then depend on relatives! Especially someone who clearly doesn’t want to live with me! It seems so strange, she needs a counselor.
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Sounds like your mother has not adapted well to being back in KS. For you to fix up her ex husband's house to live in yourselves she may be feeling left out of feeling like 'family' any more. You have every right to live your life on your own terms and it seems you've explained your preference to having your own space with your wife. Even if they were divorced there may be some residual feelings in your mom over your dad's passing, if nothing else a concern she's truly 'on her own' now and could be the next to pass away; mortality of a peer brings it home very quickly. If she was supposed to be in your home for just a short period, maybe have a calm talk with her and acknowledge that perhaps that wasn't spelled out more clearly. Encourage her to find and enjoy a cozy place of her own, ensuring you all are still family.
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No, you are not a cold hearted son. However, I think your Mom is having difficulty with all the changes in her life.

She doesn't have to live with you. However, what she does need is to have someone help her through the transition of the change she is going through.

She is guilt tripping you because you internally feel you were too blunt with her and she, after knowing she mis-calculated, is trying to blame her inconveniences on someone else other than herself so that she doesn't have to be accountable for her life. Well, sometimes blunt is what it takes to get the point across. Don't give in to the guilt trip.

Help her arrange transportation for her. Help her find a senior center so that she can connect with other people. Arrange Meals-for-wheels so that she gets some social interaction where she is staying. Teach her how to fend for herself. Let her make the mistakes...DO NOT RESCUE.

Maybe she needs ideas on how to successfully live as a senior. Whatever the issues, try and MANAGE it, but not do it, for her..

.....and most of all, do NOT offer her a place to stay with you. If you do, you will have just given her the message that she is more important than your life and is a higher priority than your wife and family.
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You could have handled it more diplomatically, instead of treating her like a deadbeat border. Also, no back surgery is “small “. This was not just wrong, but cruel..,in my opinion. In addition, what does it say in your father’s will? Does the house automatically go to you? Would your mother have some rights to the house in a divorce settlement? I don’t know, but you seem sort of selfish. April to August is like no time & she wasn’t even sick or suffering from immobility, incontinence or dementia. She’s a relatively healthy middle aged woman, who worked! You could have done more to help her get settled in a new apartment, in my opinion. You didn’t have to do any caregiving at all. I believe this behavior will probably backfire on you when you least expect it. Good luck to you, your wife and your mother..
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KLJ0925 Sep 2023
You must have felt wronged in the past to answer this way. Deal with your own luggage and don't take it out on him.
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Problem is she grew too comfortable living with you and she thought it would stay this way for the future. You should never have started this living arrangement.

You need to figure out what you can live with.

If you want me to write that you shouldn’t feel guilty, I cannot do that.
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KLJ0925 Sep 2023
Not a helpful reply!
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Your question was, if I read correctly, is whether or not you should feel guilty.
The answer is an undisputable NO.
If anyone should feel guilty it's your mom. When she starts on the "what did I ever do for you to treat me this way?" I suggest the broken record technique. Tell her same thing every time. Something like: "you're an independent capable woman." or "The best thing for you is to be independent." The key is repeating the same thing every time, no matter her response.
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Lymie61 Sep 2023
Or turn it around on her, “you taught me the importance of independence and how to live independently, the best gift of all”
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JeremyMeek: You are not mean. Your mother is a relatively young 61 year old. Other than depression, there seems to be no reason why she cannot get her own apartment.
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My partner and I had to kick her mother out of a property we owned because she was disrespectful of it and our rules. It was an awkward thing to do but it had to happen.

She still asks us if she can move back because she would rather give us the rent than her landlord but that is not an option and that is what we tell her every time: “That is not an option.”

You don’t need to explain any more than that and you don’t need to feel bad about it. You have a right to your own life.
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I feel heartbroken for your mom.
On her side of things, it is scary getting older, having people her age with whom she was close die, and having an ailment/ surgery -makes one feel very vulnerable. Communication is key. You have a lot going on. You have your own life to live. You deserve to be happy. True. That said, there is no honor in kicking someone when they are down. You are your mother’s only child, her closest family. All these people saying don’t feel guilty—really? Guilt is not something someone can MAKE you feel. Maybe a better word is accountability. It is a result of your conscience telling you that you have perhaps not considered another person’s feelings to the extent that is necessary for a healthy relationship. In this case, a special person to you who is struggling. Help her understand your point of view in the most empathetic way, and don’t think of her as an inconvenience. Be accountable for how you express yourself. I am an only child too and don’t have my mother in my life anymore, and I wish I had always treated her with the utmost love and respect for all the things I did not even know she was going through. Ask yourself this (as I ask myself)- did she make sacrifices raising a child and working? Did she help you when you were sick and little and couldn’t fend for yourself? Kind patience is needed with aging parents who are trying to navigate these new changes and the feelings that go along with the whole process. Our society as a whole is not kind to the aging. Sounds like your mom is a person who prefers to be independent. She is going through depression. Don’t enable her to be stagnant but let her know you are there for her. I wish you all the best!
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waytomisery Sep 2023
OP has already been generous allowing her to stay and was wise to give an end date to the temporary living arrangement . The mother should not be shocked that she needs her own place now . . Very wise of OP to set a boundary . Then mother also was not willing to have her surgery a different week when her son would be able to help her . Personally , I think that was on purpose to use as a guilt trip that he didn’t help her . As it is he did help set up transportation . I think OP is willing to help his mother when needed, but she wants to be in control . Those that need help have to be willing to compromise . Her behavior could backfire on her and perhaps her son will not be willing to help her later . The son doesn’t have to put up with her comments .

She treats her son like cr*p with her guilt provoking comments. This woman is controlling . She is orchestrating this to get son to give in and let her live with him. Yes , she is depressed but giving in and enabling her or putting up with her comments is not the answer. The mother is out of line . I would have more sympathy if the mother was nicer about her fears and tried to have a discussion about them with her son instead of being a nasty controlling B***h . We aren’t talking about a 90 year old with dementia . I think the son has communicated , mother is not listening nor is she communicating in an adult healthy way . If she loses her son , that’s on her .
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Perhaps offer for her to move in with you?
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Davenport Sep 2023
Margaret,

What? OP's entire request for suggestions (or help) was that they DIDN'T WANT mom to live with them. Perhaps you misunderstood?
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Son asked mom NOT to schedule surgery for August as it was a busy month for him. She scheduled it then regardless.

There seems to be a profound lack of communication in this relationship.
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Doesn't back surgery require a lot of recuperating time? Am I the only one who thought she did this so son would feel obligated to keep her until she was back on her feet health wise?

I agree she knew this was temporary then decided she liked the current situation and wanted it to be permanent. She hoped her son would be too polite to tell her NO.

No guilt here. Remind her and anyone else who sees fit to get involved that you had an agreement for TEMPORARY housing and that time has expired. You are an adult and you don't want to live with a parent. So many people think they have to come up with an excuse why this is not a good idea. Here it is...."I Don't want to". it is the truth and how can someone really argue with that.

When my father was moving from his house to an apartment there was a chance he would need a place to stay for a week and I was dreading that. Living with him for a week would have been 6 1/2 days too much. And he was miffed when I didn't immediately offer him my home.
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Don't accept her guilt. She had an uncommunicated expectation to live with you - it seems forever. You did not know of this expectation or agree to it. Since she is well able to live on her own - and living with you was already supposed to be short term - she outstayed her welcome and needs to live someplace else.

Going forward, it might be a good idea to communicate the types of help you and your wife (talk with wife first) are willing to provide. Let mom know what a "short stay" and a "longer stay" mean from your perspective. Ask for her definitions. Try to find ways to communicate love to your mom in ways she will appreciate. A good place to start is by reading The 5 Love Languages.

Feel free to share my response with her.
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You made the right choice. Just look at similar posts made regularly here of children who allowed their parents to stay at their house indefinitely without a set move out date. The parents end up staying there forever with no intention of moving out! Read the comments here of those of us living in misery with our parents. You took matters into your own hands to avoid the same fate. Your wife should thank you!

I don’t know if your father died unexpectedly, but knowing how conniving mothers can be, don’t you think your mom may have anticipated that you would soon inherit his house if he was old and/or in failing health? That her plan all along was to stay with you through her back surgery and indefinitely, eventually moving into your father’s house once he passed?

It can be hard to find a balance between helping and allowing a parent to take over your life, but I think a right balance would be to help her out during any injuries and surgeries - at her house. Drop off groceries, help with dishes, make sure she’s comfortable. However, her living with you is off the table. As long as she is healthy, at 61, she may be able to live alone for another ten years or longer. Don’t let her take over your life at such a young age.
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Sounds like your mom is lonely. Your dad dying probably scared the hell out of her...made her think about her own death. I get it, but you are entitled to live your life. Mom needs to get involved in something so that she can make friends. Mom is probably feeling very hurt and lonely at the moment and making a commitment to spend time with her on a regular basis might help her feel more secure. Maybe you can have a heart to heart with her and tell her you want her in your life, but you and your wife need your privacy. Suggest a dinner night every other week at your place. She probably doesn't feel young, but she is...help her find a community with folks her age so that she can network. I don't know what her interests are, but joining a yoga class or a book club or a travel club...or even entertain the idea of dating again.

You are doing the right thing by speaking up for yourself, but cut mom some slack. It is an odd time in her life.
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Please note, OP has not responded.

We have no idea what type if relationship this son and mother had before she moved back. They lived States away from each other. She is only 61! She seems to have been able to own a home, sell it, and move States away. This man lives in a 2 bedroom apartment with his wife. Nice for visiting relatives but not for 3 adults living together. No privacy for one thing. She overstayed her welcome. In 2 months he found he could not live with Mom permanently. Thats OK. At 74, I don't want to live with my girls. Would not even think about it. This woman sold her house in 30 days after she moved. She now had the money to purchase another home or get an apartment in the same complex. Her operation didn't come into the picture till August. Dad died and left son the house. May, he made it clear that she would not be moving in with him. She had lots of time before he moved to get a place of her own. Maybe even ask the landlord if she could remain in the apartment. She had money from the sale of her house and a good job.

There is a reason Son and Dad lived in one state together and Mom in another. I will assume Mom and son did not have a great relationship. That moving was all Moms idea and she had expectations that son was not willing to live up to. Maybe he handled the situation wrong. Maybe it was out of frustration because it seems Mom was not listening. Seems she wants things her way and that is not going to happen. Son is married and his wife comes first.

I was just talking to a woman who I always was asking "when are u retiring" She was a single mother of 4. Her husband just picked up and left one day when the boys were small. She held down a good job till she was 70. Owns her own home. Is now 75 and doing great. She asks nothing of her 4 boys, she does not have to.
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I see this quite differently than some of the commenters.

Mother’s “short term stay” while she was supposed to be looking for her own place lasted 6.5 months.

It sounds as if she decided to stay with them permanently in May, when the OP inherited his father’s house. And they fought about it. Had she ever actually looked for her own lace in March or April?

It seems unlikely that mother was devastated by father’s death as they had divorced over 40 years earlier.

Frankly, it doesn’t sound like his mother had any intention of finding her own place.

I am about the age of the OP’s mother. Her expectation to move along with them is unreasonable and shows a disregard of boundaries.
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It sounds like your mother is displaying some narcissistic personality traits.
You’ve done nothing wrong by setting a boundary, and it’s ok to want to have a life with your wife. This is something your mother should respect not make difficult by making you feel guilty or creating drama.
It sounds like you’re doing a good job of trying to be honest and helpful, while maintaining your boundaries.
It’s not your responsibility if she wishes to turn that into something it’s not.
So no, in my personal opinion, you are 100% NOT being a mean and cold hearted son!
From what you wrote, you’re the opposite of a mean and cold hearted son! You’re a warm and kind hearted son, who wants to have autonomy in your own life, which is ok!
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Oops, replied twice so edited the repeat. Sorry!!
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WOW! No offense meant, because I don’t have enough facts to respond intelligently. However, this makes me grateful I don’t have children.
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MargaretMcKen Sep 2023
If you ‘don’t have enough facts to respond intelligently’, perhaps better not to respond at all. It’s your choice whether to have children, no business of ours.
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Again - the mother is not lonely while mourning the loss of her beloved partner and the son is not evicting mother from their shared marital house. His parents divorced 40+ (yes, FORTY plus) years ago.

Let’s role play this: Imagine you had a family member visiting. During said visit, you won the lottery and bought a house. Does that entitle your visitor to quit working and move in to your new house?
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AlvaDeer Sep 2023
And again, "Mom" is 61 (my daughter's age), working, and capable of carrying boxes out to the car. Something is clearly wrong here that the OP would even have this sort of question. I am not certain what mom's opinion so matters in this equation to grown children dealing with their own lives and marriages and homes.
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Absolutely do not feel guilty. Your mother is a capable woman and 61 IS NOT OLD. You have every right to say you do not want your mother to live with you. She has not done anything wrong except assuming she could continue to overstay her welcome. Your love for her excludes being a third person in your marriage.
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I see no responses from the opp, beyond his initial post....
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MargaretMcKen Sep 2023
I’m fairly sure that OP’s responses are there as comments to many suggestions.
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All the best in your new beginnings! You have done nothing that you should feel guilty about. You were/are honest, caring, and helpful to your Mom. I hope that she appreciates all that you do. Maybe your Mom can get a pet to keep her company.
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