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I'm new here, trying to find some support or at least a spot to vent about my crazy situation. My husband always dealt with major life stress in his bottle. Two family members passed in 2020, he started drinking tons, not eating too much and since Covid put his job on hold he sat around watching Netflix, wasting away then put in for early retirement. And of course, screaming at anyone that might mention he should take care of himself because he like most alcoholics doesn't have a problem.



Last year he basically burned his body out. Trip to the ER found he developed liver failure and that his body had even been pulling from his bones to survive. He couldn't behave enough for me to even work part-time before we got him sorta stable or at least not seeing lil green men in the house. He played around refusing to eat if something wasn't just perfect. Best example is eggs, over easy to be specific, if the yoke broke even just on the plate he'd tell me throw it out and do it again.



He tells everyone he speaks to that I won't buy food, cook ect to the point I'm scared someone will eventually call APS if they don't understand he's basically crazy. Claiming I starve him to death while he's got a table full of snacks and regular meals, even if they're not at regular times because he doesn't sleep at night anymore. He's obsessed with me going shopping for food even if I put what he's asking for in his hands, he doesn't want to eat it but I've got to buy more. We have a full pantry, fridge and freezer. He always needs the one thing I don't have and once I buy it he doesn't want it.



I've been physically hurt moving him - ribs out of place, back going out and hip problems. His denial means he's convinced he can walk ect but reality is I'm carrying most his weight so I started refusing because there is no one else to do anything! Seriously people offer to help with outside chores but it's constant diapers that are breaking my body and nobody wants to do those. And he actively tries to make it worse at times. He'd do things like pee off side of the bed because it's just water and resist rolling for diaper changes if he was mad about not getting his way about something. And he's convinced my injuries are fake or not his fault. My personal favorite is telling me if I'm not doing what he wants he'll divorce me, shocked I asked who's going to take care of you and he said divorces take a long time. He actually thought he could divorce me but keep me as a slave until it was finalized.



Somehow he believes my not working for 11 months and only recently going back for 2 short shifts per week is about my injuries or being lazy. And through all of this knowing he has liver failure (which has progressed despite him mostly not drinking) he asks everyone that visits to bring him alcohol and is obsessed with getting to and checking old booze hiding spots. Just had a doctor's appointment about him without him present to ask about just going ahead and giving him what he wants and letting him drink hard liquor again. And how to manage meds if hes drinking. I'm at whits end and obviously being dry and having someone prepare him food isn't fixing the situation after a year and he won't follow any plans to help him. It feels wrong to buying someone dying of liver failure booze but it's been a year of horribly angry alcoholic that wants his drink more than he wants to live.

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I know all about it because I lived it. My first husband was an alcoholic who died of alcohol-related illness. We were divorced and I was remarried, but I helped take care of him in his last year.
He was not abusive. He was never abusive. Yet I had to get divorced from him because of the drinking. It was sad that he had so much regret and was so sorry that anyone had to take care of him.

I'm going to speak plainly here and I want you to know that it's out of the spirit of friendship and with your best interests at heart.

Your husband is an a$$$$le. Stop taking care of him personally.
Start by bringing in some homecare today or find out about residential care facilites.

You go back to work full-time and file for divorce. You don't have to leave your home if you don't want to.
You also do not have to take care of him.

I want you to try on a new way of thinking. Every time you offer to change his diaper, you're doing him a favor. If he's going to get nasty about it, leave him in it and walk away.

When you bring him some food, if he complains and acts up because he doesn't want what you've brought, take his plate and throw it in the garbage. Then he goes without eating.

You do not buy him any booze. When he gets abusive about it, call the police and an ambulance. Tell them he's threatening to hurt himself. They will take him out.
Then you tell the hospital that you are staying with a friend and there is no one in the home to take care of him and you will not be returning. That's an unsafe discharge and they will turn it over to APS to handle.

If they let him return, you make sure you aren't there.
Then join an Al-Anon group like Scampie1 suggests. It really helped me.

It's time for you to walk away. No one has to live with abuse. You did the best you could and please don't become a martyr at this point.

Your husband's bad choices and abusive behavior are the reasons why he is sick and will be cared for by hired strangers. That's not your fault.

It is time for his reckoning, not yours.
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My heart breaks for you. I’m so sorry. I grew up with addiction in my family. My brother destroyed his liver too.

I desperately tried to help him. I ended up having to walk away. I couldn’t take any more of his crap.

You may end up having to walk away as well.

Have you spoken to a therapist about your situation? It might help. I went to a therapist and I found that it does help to discuss these issues with an objective individual who has experience with these issues.

I would also attend Al-Anon. It helps to speak with others who have walked in your shoes.

Best wishes to you.
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I really don't think your husband will be here much longer. Him having hallucinations means toxins are in his system. And seems his mind has been effected in other ways. Is his stomach extended, if so he is in the last stage. I would not give him the booze but if someone brings it to him, you had nothing to do with it. If he orders it and has it delivered, you had nothing to do with it.

I really don't know how you can live like this. I think I would get to the point that he gets what you want to give him. What can he do physically if he is bed bound. To me your kind of in charge at this point. I would feed him his 3 meals a day. Leave him snacks and drinks. If he doesn't eat what u serve him that's his problem. Check on him every so often for a diaper change. And I would call them diapers. I think I would get my digs in when I could. Then, I would go off to a room as far away as I could and put ear plugs in my ears. Go outside. Have lunch with a friend. Go to a park and read. He needs you at this point more than you need him.

If he ever hits you, call the police and have him them Baker Act him. Tell them the liver disease is effecting his mind. He will be evaluated and then you refuse to take him back. Tell him his verbal abuse and physically taking care of him is killing you. If you have any assets, see an Elder Lawyer. Medicaid allows assets to be split. His split going to his care. When almost spent down, you apply for Medicaid. With Medicaid you become the Community Spouse, remaining in the home, having 1 car and enough of you monthly income of SS and any pension to live on.

If he ends up in the hospital, also a good time to refuse to take him home. He gets sent right to a NH from the hospital and you see an Elder Lawyer about splitting assets so all your money does not go to his care. If he becomes handful for them, they can give him meds to calm him. Maybe that is what you should tell the doctor, your husband needs to be medicated for anxiety. If it dopes him up, thats good for you.

Think about Hospice. You do most of the work but you will be given an aide to bathe him. See how many hours u can get. Leave when she/he is there. You will be given any equipment he needs. Meds given him for anxiety and pain are paid for by Medicare as are diapers, wipes, chuxs, etc.
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CaregiverL Aug 2023
She doesn’t have to spend down till she has nothing if she consults with Elder law atty.
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When your liver is shot--then no medications that he takes are even really doing what they're supposed to do. The liver is the filter and takes a lot of abuse..until it no longer can.

His liver is now actively putting out toxins in his body, even if he's 'dry' and the damage is done.

My DH had HepC and never drank and was healthy enough to receive a liver transplant 17 years ago. He was lucky. Your DH will not qualify for a transplant, which is probably just as well.

I would have had no problem putting DH in a rehab facility, which is what I should have done. You probably should have your DH moved to a NH. Divorce him if you think that's right.

Save yourself. If you are like most the people on here--you're going it alone and frustrated and sick of the unending and gratitude-less work that caring for a mean, sick person can be.
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You are living in pure hell. You should be the one mentioning and going through getting a divorce. Why haven't you yet? Surely it can't be because you still love him and love taking his abuse.
You my dear will be the one who's going to die before he does if you don't make some changes soon. You CANNOT continue on like this!
Please either hire some in-home help or look into placing him in the appropriate facility. And if money is an issue you can apply for Medicaid for him.
But most importantly is you and your physical and mental health, so please start attending your local Al-Anon meetings, as they will help you see things from a more healthy perspective.
And it wouldn't hurt to talk to an elder care attorney and divorce attorney as well.
Please do now what is best for you!
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JLynn01 Aug 2023
Its been one of those marriages where divorce has always been on the back burner. I love my home that I've put 18 years of work into, which would go. I love my horses, I couldn't afford them without paid off horse property. I love my dogs that have a nice big yard which would go away.
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This will be controversial, but frankly I’d let him have the booze at this point. It was like my dad with ckd who had a Big Mac habit. That plus other protein probably escalated things, but he did get a Big Mac until the day he was too far gone to ask for one.
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JLynn01 Aug 2023
Our doctor agrees with you. It feels wrong but he's not a baby and can choose to continue to hurt himself. So he's currently happy watching a movie with a bottle of rum in his possession. This after throwing huge fit this morning that suddenly stopped when I mentioned I talked to the Dr about letting you drink. He's so in denial he told me all the doctors told him it was kidneys not liver scared. He's living his lil denial dream with his bottle again, anything for a drink.
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You Need a social worker or therapist for support . Sounds Like he has exhausted you . I would try and get him Into a NH - Just a suggestion otherwise you will end up with a heart attack . Do you Know about Narcissists ? They will suck you dry Like a Vampire . You are dealing with a Vampire . I am surprised you have Not considered divorcing Him . You can try Al Anon for some support . He will eventually die . Alcoholics are selfish People - Go to a AA Meeting sometime . I dealt with 2 Of them . Next time he ends up in the Hospital do Not bring him Home ask to speak with a case manager and social worker and Have him Placed in a Facility or On a Psyche ward so he can dry Out . You Can even go to a judge and Have him sectioned where they will Place him a detox for 30 days . You have choices and Options . Use them . There is no winning with a alcoholic or a narcissist . I feel for you get some help for yourself and get back your Life .
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Get him into Hospice or a NH and take back your life. Let them deal with him.

Quite frankly - you're better off without him. For heaven's sakes, he's pissing on your floor - on purpose.
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Scampie1 Aug 2023
Alcoholics can have some of the nastiest personalities I've ever met. Most of them have some sort of personality disorder going on.

I agree with with you Olddude, she is better of without him.
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I would suggest a divorce.
But then I would have been suggesting that for years now, perhaps for decades.

As to getting his own drink, that's easy; you order something and it's at your door in 20".

Alcoholics are one thing. I accept it's a disease/addiction. MEAN alcoholics are ANOTHER thing. I wouldn't accept that for 5 seconds.

You will soon be on your own. Spare some time to think about your plans for the future, because you have one.
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JLynn,

I posted earlier on your thread, before you shared more details.

I am going to speak about my experience with an addict. Of course, you have the right to choose whatever you feel is best for you.

Personally, I couldn’t justify staying with my husband if he was like your husband. Nothing could keep me there. I would give up everything and even enter a woman’s shelter if I had to.

My physical and mental well being would cause me to leave a husband such as yours.

I am glad that you are aware that your husband can’t quit cold turkey. He has a disease and is quite far gone. Most likely, a lost cause at this point.

My childhood was robbed from me due to my brother’s addiction. I saw and heard things that no child should ever be exposed to.

I saw my brother overdose on heroin on our front porch and I ran inside to get my mother.

I didn’t understand why my brother collapsed. I just remember that my younger brother and I were outside playing and we saw him fall. We looked at each other and wondered if he died. We were young and scared.

Naturally, all of this brought so much confusion into my life.

I would climb up to my treehouse in our backyard to escape the mayhem between my parents and my brother. When I got older, I would hop on my bicycle and ride for miles and miles to get away.

I couldn’t bear the emotional pain that I felt when I was near my brother.

I was embarrassed in front of my friends. I stopped inviting friends to our house. I went through times of loneliness, along with anxiety and depression. I couldn’t eat without getting an upset stomach.

I felt many different emotions, perhaps being sad the most prevalent, yet I did well throughout school. I knew that a good education would lead to becoming independent. School was a great distraction for me.

I think I felt a huge responsibility to please my parents because my brother caused them so much grief.

I do have compassion for addicts. It is a horrible disease. Still, I feel that they must assume responsibility for their actions no matter how difficult it may be.

When I sought out therapy as an adult I discovered that my confusion in my youth came from the fact that before my brother became an addict he was a terrific older brother that I loved. Plus. I was seeing things through a child’s eyes.

Before my brother was an addict, I have some memories of being in a happy family.

I was 6 years old when when he started using at age 13. A friend at school asked him to try heroin. Parents didn’t warn kids about drugs at that age back then.

My brother was very intelligent and a good person when he was clean. He even had his own business at one point. He lost everything due to his addiction. He became homeless at one point.

As an adult, I desperately tried to help him. We can’t help anyone who doesn’t want help. There were times when he would get clean but it never lasted.

When my mom was living with us, she asked me if my brother could move in with us to avoid becoming homeless. She had taken him into her home when things were rough for him.

I am married with two daughters. I told my mother that I had no choice but to live with him as a child but I have a choice now. I said that I would never place my children in the same situation that I was in.

My brother died in 2013 in an end of life hospice facility with liver failure. I cut all ties with him years before. His friend called me to tell me that he was dying. I did take my mom to see him before he died. I forgave him and he died peacefully in hospice.

Nothing is better than having peace of mind. It’s priceless.

I really do hope that you will be able to work things out to where you can have what you want.

I chose to protect myself and my family from my brother. I certainly hope that you will protect yourself. An addict will do anything to get their next fix.

I wish you the very best. I feel your pain.
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KNance72 Aug 2023
I am Glad you were able to forgive him and find Peace for yourself .
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