I am so relieved to have found this site! I am at the *start* of this caregiving situation with my mom. Mom has a very low social security income and is 81 and on Medicare. I would like your advice! If you could go back to the beginning of what *you* have been through, what would you do differently?
I emailed a write up on all app'ts with dr's contact info etc plus what happened on those app'ts to the back-up POA just in case but COPIED MYSELF so I had the same file & could find info quickly when it was needed
The POA thing bit me in the butt with APS. I only had one done because of my father’s physical limitations, so that I could get his business taken care of. When he was in a previous facility, I got a call from APS saying an allegation of financial abuse was made against me, and of course they wouldn’t tell me by who. No one in his family would have called that in because I had checked with everyone about the POA if they wanted it and they all said they trusted me to handle things. We think it was the ALF or someone at the ALF, either because of their mismanagement of his account (which I found later they were adding unnecessary fees to his bills and not informing us), or because my dad likes to tell people worst case scenarios for attention even if not true (something to the effect of “my daughter probably spent all my money” which yes I did...on his facility and care!). So APS investigated and found zero grounds for the allegation. But it set the tone for what came next.
When it was time to apply for medicaid, the caseworker ran me and my dad around in circles for 6months, telling us she wouldn’t help him with the application “because your daughter is a criminal, I saw the APS report!”. She closed his application for “violent behaviors, wouldn’t be allowed in facilities.” He got kicked out of his facility, so I took him in. He was so mean, ungrateful, ragged on my children, ran me around, lied to family about his living situation. Just sooooo much negativity and abuse. He was placed back in facility care almost a year ago after more strokes, got his Medicaid approved in record time thanks to the facilities social workers and business people (MVPs!) and I no longer deal with him. But ended up in a mental breakdown last January-ish, and I’m only just starting to feel normal again. 5 years after this mess began!
I don’t know what I could have done in the past, I had 4 children still minors to take care of, so I guess I was doing short fixes just to survive. But I do know if presented with caregiving for a parent again, I wouldn’t. I know now there are organizations out there, and my dad had nor has any competency issues, just mobility. So he could have dealt with things himself if he was put in the position to need to. He stepped up to do for himself once I stopped doing for him.
I would try to see her as much as humanly possible... But just know you did your best.... that's what I did....I wish I could've gotten Mother back to her beloved beach...but I couldn't....we live in the White Mountains of Arizona.... barely afford that.... but to get her a million-dollar home in Redondo, I certainly would have, if I could have afforded it. I really wanted to get her back "home"....but I couldn't. I offered to take her for visits, but she said No, because she wouldn't want to leave. I totally understood. All we can do is do our best.
Make sure you and your mother are saved by Jesus Christ....make Him your Lord and Savior, because our time here is so limited, and eternity is Forever......Heaven and Christ are the Goal....not Hell, ok. We default to Hell....there is no other recourse or way....only Jesus is the Way. God be with you and yours. 🌺🕊🌺
I have indeed thought about your question....if I could go back and do it all again.... Here's my answer:
If I could do it all over again..... I'd have never married, but stayed with Mom and Dad, eventually becoming his caregiver, then my mother's.
They began to move around in later years, first to be closer to my mother's eldest brother, who passed about 3 years after they relocated. That was a Big mistake, because my folks left their favorite place to live near her brother....and that place was, Redondo Beach, Ca.....from being close by her brother, then they left for a motorhome life, which didn't last long because my dad was already too old and having health issues...so they spent away their fortune doing the motorhome thing, then they moved into a "dump" in a hot, horrid place called Lake Elsinore....and thought when they "bought" this old mobile home that it was theirs....all fine and good, except that they were now saddled with space rent, which increased a little every year....not good....for 17 years.
Long story short, Dad ended up in a nursing-type home, where he passed....then Mom, who was legally blind, needed help....my sister and I did our best to help her....me, finally taking Mother into my home which was out of state.....Mother was forever homesick for her Redondo roots.....and I couldn't afford to buy her a home there, unfortunately.
If I'd stayed with them, and didn't impose too much on their privacy, I may have been able to keep them as close to Redondo as possible....so, that's what I'd do differently, stay with them, and help them all along the way, possibly keeping them close to the beach. 😢. Oh well.
For me though, as a recently ‘former’ caregiver without the benefit of a ‘happy ending’ no less, I feel my opinions are drastically different than they were before.
I owe that primarily to my eyes being opened. I went into caregiving blindly and stayed that way because I denied any instincts that were different from what I considered to be my ‘obligation’ to my mother.
I learned so much from others here on the forum. Some had similar experiences to me. It doesn’t even matter though if they were different because I learned from everyone in one way or another. I am grateful.
There isn’t a ‘one size fits all’ answer for responsibilities in caregiving. Then there is the question if any of us are responsible for caregiving at all. This can lead to a heated debate among many.
I thought I was responsible and had I not tried perhaps I would have continually wondered. Still, am I glad that I devoted as much time to caregiving as I did? No, I am not.
Do I feel shame or guilt for no longer being a caregiver to my mother? No, I do not. At first I absolutely did and had many conflicting emotions.
Yes, I felt relief that caregiving was over but it was mixed in with shame and guilt due to my individual circumstances.
I was not able to let go of that until the incredibly kind, smart, compassionate people on this forum reached out to me. I will eternally be grateful to each and everyone of you.
I will not tell anyone else how to feel because I don’t have that right. Even if I did tell someone how to feel with their permission because they asked me they may not be ready to hear and I totally get that.
I asked for advice. I heard but I was not ready to hear. It did open the door to conversations. It did plant seeds to grow. I was able to draw upon that advice when needed. I continued needing advice and everyone was there for me. What a blessing!
I will only speak for myself. There is no obligation. It is a choice that should only be made by the person who is considering being a caregiver. The choice should not be made by the parent or siblings.
We were born with ‘free will.’ Not even God imposes on us. I believe He wants our actions to reflect our hearts. If our heart is not in something then what is the point? He does not expect anyone to do everything all on their own. Even Jesus fell with the heavy cross and accepted help carrying it. Caregiving is a heavy cross to bear.
Christians always feel they should carry their cross as Christ did and that is admirable but they forget that Jesus himself accepted help with His struggle. It would serve us well to remember that.
There are times we must sacrifice in our lives. Does that mean we sacrifice our entire self to be a caregiver? I don’t think so. For those that believe we should. You have no argument from me. I admire your spirit of service if you truly feel a conviction to do so. I was that person too.
For me now, I see the other side. It’s the first time I actually feel free to feel the other side. There is no ‘right or wrong’ way to feel but I can tell you that my doctor constantly told me that I would be of no use to my mom with my health suffering. By the way, the same applies to mental health. Burning out is not a good thing!
To jcubed821: Each one of us has a different situation. What some may say that they did have a choice to caregive, others were left with a difficult dilemma.
I only speak for myself and my experience, not everyones is the same.
My journey is not finished, and I would not change the place I have been put to care for loved ones.
A choice I would make over again, because I have learned so very much. A priceless experience for me.
I have drawn closer to Jesus and I have found my strength to do what I need to do in HIM.
I have been blessed to obtain more patience than when I began this journey. I have found peace in it, that I so did not have in the beginning.
I was led to this forum, where there are a lot of wonderful people that have different experiences and situations but come together to help each other and those in desperate need of a shoulder or advice, and if I was never in this position and labor of love, i would never have came here.
I really don't know what I could have done different as I did what I knew at each season of this journey.
I wish you the best and if you are a believer, God and prayer have been my answer to going through this journey with love.
As I read someone wrote, Love always love.
Greatest answer.
Try and take a few moments for yourself each day to refresh, that refreshing helps you do a better job and helps you do a better job of loving.
May God bless you in this your journey.
I say these things to you in love, altho I'm sure right now you won't appreciate my words, but I hope and pray that same-day you will.
You're still smoking because you are addicted, and it's easier to keep caving in to your cravings than endure some serious discomfort in giving them up. I assure you, the money you save after giving up your bad habit will be substantial, and quite helpful.
You and every member of your family, including your dying father, especially your dying father, need to get right with the Lord! Entrust your eternal souls to the saving grace and power of Jesus Christ.
Eternity is forever, Franklin. Please consider the Lord Jesus Christ....for yourself and every member of your family...Here is the saving gospel in a nutshell, from a nut who will one day exit her shell, leaving it behind, for glory and pure joy in Heaven with God!
John 3:16----For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 3:16
I look forward to seeing you and yours in Heaven one fine day! Shalom! 🌺🕊🌺
I think I am still going nuts.. and I did have to move her for her safety and mine... It was hard, if I could have let her stay with us, I would have.
I tried, I did try to have her stay at my house... all she did was get angry..she wanted to go home.. I am sad about it still. But.. as my FIL said when he got cancer.. These bodies are not meant to live forever. Everyone goes, and hopefully we will meet again in God's House.
The difference is, she can talk and use a phone...
My mom could not talk, ALZ, and didn't have a phone... She was a sweetheart. I miss dancing with her and her presence.
you provided a service that you arent likely to be provided with in your elder years . above and beyond , dammit .
if i did it again id probably chomp pills and wash em down with everclear . oh , wait . that wouldnt be doing it differently .
Appreciate your "tell it like it is" method.
Knowing now, what I know, I would have left her in the hospital and let social services or whoever deal with her.
She's back in her own home, after I slaved to get her house in order (first floor), and ready for her to move back home. What a friggin mistake that was.
I should've known better.
After 2 months, 12 - 6 hour one way trips, elbow grease and labor to clean her place up - to just have her turn around and call police on me , report me me to her credit card agencies and talk badly about me to her friends - after being so soo nice to me while in the hospital and after helping her do her tax returns and helping her with her computer issues . . . I can go on. I did nothing wrong.
Shes been hurtful before. But I had no idea she would turn on me like this at her age.
Obviously there are details to all of this - but the essence of the question and answer: Let the system evaluate her living conditions and decide how to proceed. I'm going to stay out of it.
I can't be her 'daughter' the way I want to be at the moment.
I'll just wait for her next crisis -
Next time, you will also do what you think is best & as you say, it may be very very different. That's ok.
The payoff for all your time & hard work is experience - you lived through it & learned. You may call it bitterness now... but this will/or already has - made you stronger! You got this!
For the most part I try to live one day at a time so I don't look back much
Hmm, probably not. I advised, but no-one listened.
Mum & Dad chose to *gift* my Special Needs Sister her living arrangements ie Sis living alone *independantly* while her parents met all her wants/whishes/whims. They hoped she would grow in independance.
Fast forward: Sister much more dependant, both mentally & physically (by stroke), parents wearing out, Mum's big stroke, Dad now Mum's fulltime carer.
Yesterday was the first meeting to start the process of finding suitable accomodation for my Sister. 10 years too late. But this *new gift* is better late than never.