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This is a brand new poster who is not a carer, and the question is not about care giving. We shouldn’t be getting into whether or not it makes any sense.
Seriously, there has to be more to the story. A sweet lady at the facility left her job as a receptionist.
She was not banned and actually came back to visit a resident.
What were your receptionist duties, besides greeting visitors, and accepting mail and packages, to name 2? Did you handle resident's personal money accounts (giving them money for snacks, soda, etc)?
Not that it matters now, more info on what your job duties were would be helpful to find out where you went wrong.
At every ALF my mother lived in, the staff was strictly forbidden from giving or receiving gifts from residents as well as forbidden from taking tips from residents. That’s a very common practice in assisted and memory care facilities. Unless there’s more to the story, you weren’t fired for a HIPPA violation. Asking to have the resident return the gift is very immature. You should probably seek employment in a vastly different industry.
HIPAA is for health privacy laws. Gifting. IMO, would not fall under these laws. Gifting either from a staff member to a resident, or excepting a gift from a resident may not be allowed. I can't imagine that you would be let go for that one thing being new. A warning maybe? Did you give out a residents personal info in some way? Thirty days is still within a probationary period. They don't have to tell you why they are letting you go. 30 days will not get you unemployment either.
Why would you spend $25 on someone you barely know. Ascsaid, forget about getting the gift back.
You most assuredly were not fired due to the HIPPA law. And once a gift is given, it’s exactly that, given, and belongs to the recipient for good. Good luck in finding a new job
Why do you want to punish the resident for something they had no control over by trying to get the money back?
If your gift came "with strings attached" it is not truly a gift. It was a loan that they didn't agree to.
I know you meant well, but I think you were fired for not seeing or knowing ethical, professional boundaries. Facilties are very aware of a problematic phenomenon of "befriending" lonely, needy elders with the ulterior motive of scamming them. I'm not at all saying this is you, but this is what may have triggered your being fired, and nothing to do with HIPAA, which has to do with sharing private and protected medical information.
Why in the world would you want a gift back that I'm assuming you gave out of the goodness of your heart, and now just because you got fired want it back? I believe that's what we called back in the day an Indian giver, and why we called it that I haven't a clue. To me it sounds like there is a whole lot more to your story than what you shared, but bottom line, forget about the gift, and instead hope that the recipient is now enjoying it, and get out and get you another job.
Funky, I think it was called Indian giver because our country broke every treaty ever made with the Native American Nations. They gave gifts with one hand and took them away with the other.
Sounds like they were already lookin for an excuse to let you go. It is not a hippa violation that's totally bs. Did they put in writing why they fired you? Pretty sure they didn't put that. Sounds like they ate hoping you don't file for unemployment. As far as the gift where did it go. Is it worth fighting for. They also can not ban you fom the facility unless you committed a felony. If a resident wishes you to visit the facility cannot violate their rights of choice. That would be considered isolation report them if that should happen. It you chose to visit just make sure you do it respectfully, don't bad mouth or upset the person your wanting to visit as you could be in trouble yourself.
The AL certainly CAN restrict this OP from coming back to the facility again and it's done quite a bit! You should not be advising this poster to report the AL or to show up there under ANY circumstances. You have no idea under what circumstances she was fired! Very bad advice. OP needs to adhere to the rules of her termination.
The reason you were given for getting fired makes no sense. Neither does you wanting to take a gift back! You obviously have questionable decision making abilities, I'm sorry to say. You're banned now from stepping foot on this property, so forget about getting this gift back. Why are you even thinking along these lines????? 😑
Hi Karma - It was a kind gesture giving a gift, but I assume that there must have been the policy of the Assisted Living facility not to give gifts to residents - did they give you an Employee Handbook upon being hired?
You were only there for a month, so I think it's best just to move on from this experience rather than linger and try to get the gift back. There'll be better jobs - and at this time, I'd suggest moving forward and forging ahead for a new opportunity and to focus on that!
What did your "gift" have to do with privacy rights? That's the reason they GAVE you, but do know that most states are "right to hire" and "right to fire" and they need not give you a reason. They can fire you if they don't like your haircut.
Did you understand, when hired, that giving gifts was not to be done? That is to say, were you informed that you were not to give a gift to a resident?
I am certain it should be clear to you that the giving of gifts to a resident, by the staff, is not a good thing. What might other residents think about this preferential action.
This is a hard lesson to learn, but I can only say that you likely have learned it. Go on to other employment and if they ask for references from this employer be absolutely honest that you gave a 25.00 gift to a resident, that you understand now this was a violation of rules and not a good thing to do, that you learned a valuable but painful lesson.
Your future employer can call your former for information, but this is seldom given other than "would you hire this person again". In consideration of that I would write a letter to the former employer saying that you understand you were in violation of their rules, are very sorry, and have learned a valuable and very painful lesson, that you loved your job and will miss them all.
Life is short. Just get on with things. I am very sorry. When we pride ourselves on our work this sort of thing stings almightily. Good luck in future.
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Seriously, there has to be more to the story. A sweet lady at the facility left her job as a receptionist.
She was not banned and actually came back to visit a resident.
What were your receptionist duties, besides greeting visitors, and accepting mail and packages, to name 2? Did you handle resident's personal money accounts (giving them money for snacks, soda, etc)?
Not that it matters now, more info on what your job duties were would be helpful to find out where you went wrong.
Why would you spend $25 on someone you barely know. Ascsaid, forget about getting the gift back.
If your gift came "with strings attached" it is not truly a gift. It was a loan that they didn't agree to.
I know you meant well, but I think you were fired for not seeing or knowing ethical, professional boundaries. Facilties are very aware of a problematic phenomenon of "befriending" lonely, needy elders with the ulterior motive of scamming them. I'm not at all saying this is you, but this is what may have triggered your being fired, and nothing to do with HIPAA, which has to do with sharing private and protected medical information.
Forget about the money. Learn and move forward.
I believe that's what we called back in the day an Indian giver, and why we called it that I haven't a clue.
To me it sounds like there is a whole lot more to your story than what you shared, but bottom line, forget about the gift, and instead hope that the recipient is now enjoying it, and get out and get you another job.
Anyways that my take on it.
You were only there for a month, so I think it's best just to move on from this experience rather than linger and try to get the gift back. There'll be better jobs - and at this time, I'd suggest moving forward and forging ahead for a new opportunity and to focus on that!
Did you understand, when hired, that giving gifts was not to be done? That is to say, were you informed that you were not to give a gift to a resident?
I am certain it should be clear to you that the giving of gifts to a resident, by the staff, is not a good thing. What might other residents think about this preferential action.
This is a hard lesson to learn, but I can only say that you likely have learned it.
Go on to other employment and if they ask for references from this employer be absolutely honest that you gave a 25.00 gift to a resident, that you understand now this was a violation of rules and not a good thing to do, that you learned a valuable but painful lesson.
Your future employer can call your former for information, but this is seldom given other than "would you hire this person again". In consideration of that I would write a letter to the former employer saying that you understand you were in violation of their rules, are very sorry, and have learned a valuable and very painful lesson, that you loved your job and will miss them all.
Life is short. Just get on with things. I am very sorry. When we pride ourselves on our work this sort of thing stings almightily. Good luck in future.
I thought only children played that kind of game.
You gave, GAVE someone something, you DO NOT get to take it back because you did something to get yourself fired.