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My mom struggles with mild cognitive impairment, depression, and alcohol use disorder. In the past 6 months, she’s had binges that are concerning. From what I’ve seen, she can function day to day (showers, drives, etc.) She lives with my sister who reports that her drinking has gotten so bad, she may overdose or drive drunk. My mom has 1 DUI from 4 years ago. Due to their safety concerns, they took her keys and stopped her from going on a choir trip out of state that she was very excited about. This was due to finding alcohol is her bag and deemed that the final straw. Please note, packing booze for traveling is not new for my mom - my parents did that since I was a kid. I am torn because I want my mom to be safe, but I also know you can’t ‘control’ alcoholism, and cutting mom off from her social life and independence seems counterintuitive. It’s also confusing that she’s ‘so sick’ yet has no issues related to alcohol in her blood work, and cognitively they are only giving her the MCI diagnosis. My sister also has a history of lying, so it makes this so gray. Does this seem like overstepping an elder’s independence? Or is this how people typically address parents’ poor mental health? Should we get a mediator to sort through all the gray?


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Have your sister move out as she is caught up in the confusion, lies, and toxicity it takes to keep your mother "independent".

You are also in denial. "alcohol use disorder" is code for "alcohol abuse disorder", aka "Alcoholism".

Alcohol is a depressant.
Alcohol causes cognitive decline, confusion, and impairment in judgment.
It is a crime to drive drunk, and unsafe, whether or not you are caught.
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BB3333 Oct 2023
Thanks for your feedback. Agreed about the toxicity and that driving drunk is obviously unsafe. At this point, I don’t know that she’s recently driven under the influence, so that’s unknown. Also, alcohol use disorder is the technical name from the DSM-5. For me it’s not denial (I know my mom has a problem.) I just don’t know how severe it is, and if that permits taking away an elder’s free will.
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Your mother does not have "free will" to drive drunk and kill innocent people! She does have free will to drink herself into cirrhosis of the liver and dementia, however.

Furthermore, any driving of a motor vehicle by a cognitively impaired person is something that should not happen. Combine that with ANY amount of alcohol consumption and your mother is a menace on the road.

I have read many posts here from people saying their loved one was diagnosed with MCI when they're behaviors are SO off the wall, they reek of moderate dementia at least.

Disable your mother's car immediately and get yourselves (you and sister) to Al-anon meetings yesterday.

The best place for mom is memory care assisted living where no booze is allowed at all, and the mini bus will drive her around.

********************************

One Last Question, Poem by Ritika Abigail

I went to a party Mom,
I remembered what you said.
You told me not to drink, Mom,
So I drank soda instead.

I really felt proud inside, Mom,
The way you said I would.
I didn't drink and drive, Mom,
Even though the others said I should.

I know I did the right thing, Mom,
I know you are always right.
Now the party is finally ending, Mom,
As everyone is driving out of sight.

As I got into my car, Mom,
I knew I'd get home in one piece.
Because of the way you raised me,
So responsible and sweet.


I started to drive away, Mom,
But as I pulled out into the road,
The other car didn't see me, Mom,
And hit me like a load.

As I lay there on the pavement, Mom,
I hear the policeman say,
'The other guy is drunk, ' Mom,
And now I'm the one who will pay.

I'm lying here dying, Mom....
I wish you'd get here soon.
How could this happen to me, Mom?
My life just burst like a balloon.

There is blood all around me, Mom,
And most of it is mine.
I hear the medic say, Mom,
I'll die in a short time.

I just wanted to tell you, Mom,
I swear I didn't drink.
It was the others, Mom.
The others didn't think.

He was probably at the same party as I.
The only difference is, he drank
And I will die.

Why do people drink, Mom?
It can ruin your whole life.
I'm feeling sharp pains now.
Pains just like a knife.

The guy who hit me is walking, Mom,
And I don't think it's fair.
I'm lying here dying
And all he can do is stare.

Tell my brother not to cry, Mom.
Tell Daddy to be brave.
And when I go to heaven, Mom,
Put 'Daddy's Girl' on my grave.

Someone should have told him, Mom,
Not to drink and drive.
If only they had told him, Mom,
I would still be alive.

My breath is getting shorter, Mom.
I'm becoming very scared.
Please don't cry for me, Mom.
When I needed you, you were always there.

I have one last question, Mom.
Before I say good bye.
I didn't drink and drive,
So why am I the one to die?

-Ritika Abigail
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Beatty Oct 2023
💔 just too sad
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If your mom can't be responsible with her drinking(and driving) then who the HELL cares if she gets cut off from her social life and independence???
That is a choice that she herself is making and one that she will have to live with.
I can't stand when loved ones of alcoholics continue to make excuses for them and choose to live in denial themselves.
YOUR MOM IS AN ALCOHOLIC!!! Not someone with an "alcohol use disorder."
And no you don't need a "mediator," you and your sister both need to start attending Al-Anon meetings today.
There you will learn how not to enable your mom and how to not live in denial about your mom and her situation.
Your mom needs more help than you or your sister can provide and until she admits that she has a problem there is nothing you can do except make sure she's not driving anywhere, drunk or not as someone with any mental decline shouldn't be driving either. So take away her keys and NEVER give them back.
And you and your sister get the much needed help you both need from Al-Anon and even a therapist.
And I will also suggest that you start looking for the right facility for your mom to be placed in as there is nothing healthy about living with an alcoholic.
I know, as my first husband was a alcoholic when I was married to him, though thankfully now he's a recovering alcoholic, and my son too was one and is now recovering.
You all need help, but the only person you can change is yourself, so start today by going to one of the many local Al-Anon meetings in your area.
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BB,

Judging by what you have said, it is more than likely that your mom is past the ‘social drinking’ stage.

Mind you, I have no issue whatsoever with social drinking. Most social drinkers know their limits and they don’t drive immediately after they have a drink or two.

I worked with a woman who was a very high functioning alcoholic. She stashed a bottle in the trunk of her car.

A few times after work, when her car was parked close to mine, I would see her drink straight from the bottle that was stashed in her her trunk.

She didn’t join us for lunch or dinner if the restaurant didn’t serve alcohol.

Sometimes it takes awhile before someone with a drinking problem to become unable to perform daily tasks.

If she lives with your sister I am sure that your sister sees a lot more than you do.

People who have substance abuse issues are masters of deception. You are only seeing a small fraction of what your sister sees.

Your sister may not be exaggerating or embellishing the facts regarding your mom’s drinking.

Your mother shouldn’t be driving under the influence of alcohol. Ask yourself, would you get in a car with your mother? I wouldn’t get in a car with anyone who has a substance abuse issue.

I understand that you don’t want your mother to be isolated from friends. Your mother’s main priority at this point in time is her well being. There will be other opportunities for activities and socialization.

Think about this in practical terms. Someone who drinks on a regular basis is going to have booze on them or want to have access to alcohol. If booze isn’t available then what?

There are recommendations from doctors and addiction specialists on how to stop drinking. So, allowing your mom to travel could be an issue if she runs out of liquor.

I hope that your family will be able to resolve this complex issue soon.
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BB3333 Oct 2023
Thank you! I hope so too. She’s going to come stay with me a few days so I hope to get more of a feel on how she’s doing.
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Your mother is an alcoholic, when drinking and driving she is behind the wheel of a 2 ton death machine.

With that she is not entitled to drive and should make other arrangements to have her social life...like someone else drive her.

I would suggest you attend Alanon so that you learn all you can about addition. Learn about enabling and how to set your boundaries.

It is a selfish disease that has tenacles that negatively affects everyone it comes in contact with.

This is something I know about, my mother is an alcoholic and she will be one all the rest of her life, it is just a matter of whether she is drinking or not. I attended Alanon for 7 years, it was a great help to me.
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BB3333 Oct 2023
I’m sorry to hear that you are experiencing something similar. It is very tough. I’ve setup some boundaries (I.e., she will never live with me, I won’t talk with her on the phone when she’s drunk, I choose sober activities for us to participate in), but I’m sure there’s more boundaries that could be implemented.
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Your Mom has been an alcoholic for at least 4 years then?
I don't call this an alcohol use disorder. I call it addiction and alcoholism.

As to what people typically do to address parent's mental health issues?
Nothing.
We cannot change others.
We can only change our own responses to their addictions or mental health.
I would suggest Al-Anon to any and all in Mom's sphere.
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She may have "no issues related to alcohol in her bloodwork" but need I tell you that alcohol effects the brain and it is VERY possible that the reason/cause of her MCI IS, as you delicately put it, her "alcohol use disorder" (what most people call alcoholism).
I agree with the others that you and any close family member attend Alanon.
And if you mom is cognizant enough to understand that her choice to drink is reducing her social life. If she choses to abstain from drinking she can get into a program, often covered by insurance, and that just might slow her cognitive decline. It will not reverse the decline but it may prevent further decline.
The choice is HERS alone to make.
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An observer's subjective opinions on another's drinking habits are just that; I was drinking daily for about 18 months following a final breakup of a 30-year relationship. But I was also seeing a therapist and going to AA just about daily during that time. It all worked for me, during that difficult period (during which I also lost my career of 40 years, having NOTHING to do with 'my drinking'). My two sisters and my mom variously called me a hypocrite, sneaky, and a liar; they were sure I lost my job because of 'my drinking'. My older sister snuck my mom off to a lawyer to replace me as mom's POA (since said sister lives 200 miles away and I was right there), under guise as 'coming to visit' (which she never normally did). None ever offered me any emotional support during this period. 3+ years later, I'm emotionally healthy, thankfully. Telling a third person that a common relative/acquaintance 'has a problem' that's based on uninformed, subjective thinking, can be very damaging. I also have never (over a 20 year period) had anything remotely relating to 'alcoholism' show up in bloodwork. So, I'd be skeptical of your sister's pronoucement; she may be correct, but as you said, you really can't control another person's drinking. Maybe your mom drank to excess twice, and your sister overreacted? On your mom's behalf, talk with her (NOT at her), and ask questions (not drills); she may be feeling sad, lonely, or a little depressed. And forcing her to not go on a trip she'd been looking forward to? From personal experience, I see that as cruel; if you and your sister, etc., were truly concerned about her safety, you could have arranged transportation for her so she could still go. If that had happened to me, I doubt I'd ever recover my sense of hope or self-esteem again. I see both sides of this coin.
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And, no one wants to wait until a drunk person driving kills someone. Period.

She can drink herself into oblivion if she wants. She is not allowed to potentially kill others driving drunk or intoxicated on the road.

Take away her ability to drive any way that can happen.
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You are torn wanting your Mom to be safe but not wanting her to be cut off from her social life.

She can make a new social life with recovering alcoholics. She goes to AA, it is not something you can do for her.

Darn that old DSM-5! Were you able to look up what it is called if your Mom is merely "self-medicating" a bipolar disorder?

You have enough information right now, and have provided it here.
It is typical for the dysfunction to cause a person (family, friends) to be so caught up in waiting for enough information (the story to unfold) that they become hyper involved in another person's life. Defending them, holding them up, listening to their excuses, dividing siblings against siblings, walking on eggshells. All the while Mom is driving drunk or over-dosing (passing out?).

Your sister and you could attend alanon, for families of alcoholics.
Then you would be provided with opportunities to get on with your life.

I strongly suggest that you do not attempt to take away your Mother's free will. You can suggest, persuade, withdraw your support for her to continue drinking, and recommend she stop drinking and attend AA by her choice. Contact a medical doctor who is certified by SAMSHA.

That is all the advice I have right now. Of course you do not have to consider it at all.
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If she is MCI and addicted to alcohol, she’s probably not competent to know when she shouldn’t drive. Addiction fools the brain. Executive function is affected. Her free will isn’t going to function like a normal person’s free will.

Your concerns about her social life and etc. are really secondary to the main problem, her addiction. Even if you were to have an intervention, her MCI and her brain changes from alcohol could keep her from understanding.

What to do? AA and Al Anon are good suggestions, but she has to take responsibility for herself and that may not happen. You have a very sick mom. Not much you can do about her life choices at this point. I’m very sorry you’re going through this.
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