As my husband's dementia worsens, I know downsizing will have to happen. There's not a lot of stuff, as we've been here about nine years. Finally had the conversation about selling his car, that went very well. The next will have to be his clothing. Then various books, and other stuff. I'm hoping that he won't notice things "missing" as they're donated to charities. I don't want to bring this up with him, it may be too confusing (too many choices) or he'll want to keep everything. I want to do this in stages, as I have no one to help me.
Any tips on best ways to do this? I don't want estate jobbers here to clean out the house either. Is there something I'm overlooking or need to know before I get started?
From there one drawer or cupboard at a time, into the sell, donate, recycle, dump boxes.
Sounds easy, hmmm??? I know it isn't! Hugs to you.
As for his clothes, don’t go too overboard just yet. But maybe start with out of season stuff, like spring/summer is approaching, so in about 2 months, donate some of his less often used coats, sweaters, winter stuff etc. Next fall, donate some of his summer clothes like shorts etc. By the time the next season rolls around, he won’t remember what he had. Not sure if he ever wore suits/ties, but keep at least one nice outfit/shoes in case he needs it.
Its frustrating for you, because it’d be easier to just get it done, but for your husbands sake, just do some here and there,
It seemed to help my mother (doesn’t have dementia but still struggled to downsize) to think that most of the items she was donating would go to someone else to be enjoyed. As long as she didn’t think things were getting “thrown away”, she seemed more willing to part with things. My father is the one recently diagnosed with dementia. He had a harder time letting things go and came up with lots of memories attached to things (usually something HUGE like an antique corner cupboard) as reasons to hang on. Some of these stories had never been heard before.
Another thing that seemed to help my mother was being able to tell her that if some decisions were just too emotional at the moment, we would go ahead and move whatever it was and deal with it later. They downsized significantly but were moving to a place with a bigger garage so we are storing things there until she’s ready to let it go. Things stored in the garage may very well be ruined between the temperature swings but that is the risk she is willing to take right now. The goal was to minimize the emotional trauma of so many changes at once. It was a blessing we had the space to handle that plan. Plan B is to take advantage of a neighborhood garage sale this summer then donate anything left.
We donated a ton, including a vehicle, sold a ton, and threw out a ton. The paperwork alone weighed over 100lbs. On top of all of that, someone had to plan and execute the move, getting them settled, lining up all of the legal and financial accounts, and preparing for all of the changes to their healthcare in a new state. All finances had been done by my father who could no longer remember the accounts much less any passwords or usernames associated with them. All that to say, I wish they had taken the time to plan ahead as you are doing. I am starting to do the same because, while I’m much younger than my parents, I cannot imagine my children having to go through this for me.
Tips:
-Many places will come pick up donations if you call or arrange for a pickup time online.
-Kars for Kids came and towed an inoperable pickup truck for us. They sold it at auction and sent us a receipt so that we can claim that amount on their taxes. It ended up being a lot more than we had been offered in cash.
-Some cities offer bulk trash pick up options that are very reasonable if you call and arrange the pick up in advance
-Staples and other businesses offer bulk shredding for paperwork (most charge by weight)
-Some local libraries will accept book donations (ours has an annual book sale)
Good luck with clearing the clutter! I hope you’ll feel lighter and less stress as it goes.
Thank you for your kind advice and help!
If you are going to move in with your husband to assisted living, then you can figure out what will be going with you (very little, I'm guessing). If you're moving by yourself, that will even look different than moving in together.
Otherwise, the current goal is for my husband to stay at home as long as possible. I think then he'll go into Memory Care. Sheeese....moving by myself is a tough reality, but gotta think about it-another topic for another day.
Thank you for your feedback!
Could you show your Mom a few home design magazine pages of what you've described? I have a bunch of those, got a paper file, and pulled out pages of what I liked for inspiration (pre-dementia diagnosed husband) this used to be known as a "look book", and is quite helpful in knowing what you'd want to do design wise. Maybe your Mom will be inspired to have a clutter free room to decorate and enjoy that looks like one of those photos.
If you want your neighbors to love you join "The Buy Nothing Project". I have recently learned of this organization that started a few years ago.
Basically, it's set up by zip codes. You go online and donate items and people in your neighborhood pick them up. No money is exchanged and bartering is not required. You get to meet people from your area and it builds community.
Basically, it's recycling and people can hold onto their $$$ since gas has gone up, utilities, chicken, etc.
The older you get you don't as much stuff as you think you do. But you need the right stuff, comfortable reading chair, good lighting, good reading glasses.
I'm sure you'll find a home for your things. Hope this helps!
I think it's a great idea.
When my dad died and we thought my mom wouldn't be coming home (COVID, before the vax; my sister and I both quarantined in their home), we rented a dumpster for the "junk." We had a garage sale last summer and will do again this summer (not all that successful) and my sister has spent a lot of time selling stuff on Facebook--none of it for very much, but she feels she's doing something.
We'll probably rent a dumpster again this summer.
Not sure what exactly we'll do with the mostly pared-down furniture that will be left when she likely goes into a nursing home within the next year. Neither of us have room for it.
There are several websites that you can search individual books and get the price they willing to pay... sometimes even providing a prepaid label.
1.Perhaps begin by taking photos of your/ his favorite cherished items. Give this collection to whomever you believe you can trust who would be willing to make sure either of you have them in case you are not able to speak for yourself.
2. Make a list of experiences that make you and him happy ( if you become unable to speak or immobile) for example, do you like to have your arms rubbed, do you like to have your hair combed, which foods do you like to eat? do you want people to take you outside for walks? do you like small quiet places? A favorite pet? Clothing? Think of anything you can...think of your senses and what you like to smell, hear, feel, see...although with dementia, ones senses change, it always helps to have a sense of your likes and dislikes. Write down a few special moment stories with pictures people can later show you or converse with you.
3. Begin taking away items you know he will not miss and or not sentimental to either of you. ( In my experience this may be harder for you to do than one thinks because removing these things from your lives may make you feel like you are removing a part of you two, you are deceiving him, and /or having to come to terms that he is seriously ill.) Take one decision at a time.
Everyone works at this differently, however, in my experience it is often very confusing for your loved one to watch people cart things off and explaining the process to them. If they have no memory of the items, in their world, the item is already gone. They do not need to watch the process. Ask yourself, are you having them involved because you think it will make them feel included or is it because it makes you feel less guilty- yes this is very difficult, and sometimes it is good to just sit down and have a cry. No one else can be in your shoes, it is such a personal decision, it is ok to change your mind on things, or take a break.
4. Sometimes Social Services can connect you directly with a family in need. It will make the giving feel more personal and you will see a direct positive effect for someone else who is also in a hard time.
5. Removing the excess gives room for more time with precious conversations, holding their hand, and working through loss that you feel.
6. Take care of yourself. Yes, all of these things in the end are things, you and he , that connection is your "life" and moments with him are precious.
7. Begin small, moving small pebbles ( not the mountain) and over time you will start to see that tiny steps will amount to much less stress and responsibilities. You will feel the overwhelming burden of so many decisions will lighten.
8. If you are unsure of the value of items, you can hire an appraiser independently to appraise your items. If you go with a company to sell all of your items, like an estate sale, be mindful that they often charge very high prices just to even get everything ready for the sale. Often, it can be more advantageous to donate items and write them off on taxes ( places of donation will gladly pick up all of your household items- make sure you take photos first )and then you sell the few items of great value.
9. Often clients are not aware of how large their furniture is and plan on taking many oversized items with them when they downsize to another place. An easy way to guestimate what you could realistically bring when you downsize, go online, find a floorplan similar to what you have in mind on moving to later. Then measure everything you plan on taking. Will it fit into the plan? Will all of your items fit into the drawers and cabinets? Often it is better to sell/donate something you have and find items more appropriate once you are in your new residence after the excess is removed. Having more room will make staying in your current home much easier too.
You can do this. One step at a time.
Safe for HIM for you to care for him and safe for YOU to care for him."
So true. He'll wind up staying on the first floor of the house, and I need to make room for that and to be able to safely care for him.
Thanks for the help!
My husband and I are only children. My mother is divorced and my late MIL was widowed for many years. We had to empty both their residence when they had to enter AL facilities. We had to travel to do this. It was exhausting,backbreaking work. I am not trying to indicate how you are more fortunate as I can only imagine how sad it must be to watch your husband's decline.
I just emphasize that you have the time to do it slowly and those efforts over time may give you a sense of accomplishment. In our cases we had a time frame as both our mothers residences needed to be sold and not with all they had accumulated over their lifetimes. I wish you the best with the slow purging.
I could clean out a LOT if I didn't have DH. Just gave away some LPs but they were mine. He won't get rid of the cassettes and VHS tapes that are 40yrs old and more. Tell him the tape deteriorates. I hate to get rid of them too but would free up so much space. BOOKS, I have handed down the children books but my husband is a History major and has a wall of bookcases full of books.
I have always cleaned out clothes. Not wearing them after a certain length of time, give away. Odds and ends of dishes, donated to a thrift shop. Sets of dishes, do you have more than you really need? That wedding china? Do u really use it and the silver. You maybe able to sell both to an antique, consignment or estate sale store. I bet there is stuff in your closets that your husband has already forgotten he has. Just box or bag up and put in your car truck when he is napping. When out, drop it off. Every so often go thru your stuff again, and that stuff you thought you could not part with now u can on second thought.
Start a room at a time or a task at a time. I did have my Moms wedding dress and my Aunts maid of honor dress. They were made of Satin and netting from 1950. I gave them to a local Theater to use in plays.
One technique that is use is once a week, I fill up a small or medium bag. Sometimes, I fill the bag with things for the trash. Sometimes, for donations.
I try to remember to do it the same day every week, like “Trash on Tuesdays”, or “Throw it out Thursdays. “
You are wise to plan ahead w/o going too wild getting rid of everything! Suits and formal wear is useless (for our lives, too), so off it goes! :)
I'm in the process of going through probably several hundred books, including collections of activities that I may no longer pursue, primarily b/c of time. I'm inventorying them, boxing them and putting them away. The inventories are computerized, so I can search for them quicker than going through boxes.
They're still available (other than the magazines and books, the latter of which will be donated), but they're out of the way.
This is NOT an easy task. I'm literally traveling back through time when I find a stash of photos, or letters when I corresponded with people and military overseas (during the Gulf War) and for a moment in time I'm in another era.
There is one item I don't plan to ever get rid of; it'll be with my dying box. That's Pete Seeger's "thanks for watching my guitar", signed by the man himself when my sister and I attended a Newport folk festival. That' precious to me.
On another issue: estate jobbers: definitely not! The first time I hired someone to clean specific rooms of my father's, one worker failed to tell another worker and a lot of valuable things were thrown out. I had also been advised by a former friend to just give instructions and let the folks work, rather than work with them. Some of those items were in good conditions and could have been sold, since they were tech devices.
I would NEVER under any circumstances do that again. Too much was lost and I remember too often what a stupid mistake I made.
I saw Pete perform years ago, great fun!
What I don't want to do, is to have to get rid of a lot of things that could have been pared down earlier.
Nor am I a modernist, sparse, one item in a room person, there's quite the variety of decor here : )
As far as books, if there are ones you will never read again, donate them. If by chance there is one that you found you have given away and want to read again there are still these places that loan books for FREE! imagine that!! (I can't tell you how many boxes of books I have given away and have not missed a single one.) ((And if you are like me I had so many recipes that I had cut out and put in binders. I took a couple weekends and went through them tossing out recipes that once looked good but I had never made in the 10+ years since I had saved it. And I tossed out duplicates of ones that I cut out but when I found I kept going back to 1 particular one I tossed others that were like it out. How many recipes did I really need for a brownie or flourless chocolate cake?))
You say he wants to stay home as long as possible. Change that to you will keep him home as long as it is SAFE.
Safe for HIM for you to care for him and safe for YOU to care for him.
Yes, get rid of items you do not need, we should all do that. Give away items that you no longer want but others do. Sell what you can and donate what no one wants or does not sell.
But do not jump into selling his clothing and other items that he still knows and values.
You do not mention his age or the stage he is in currently but you may have many years of still washing his clothing. (My Husband was diagnosed in his early 60's and I had 12 years of the Dementia Journey.)
If the plan is that you will both move to Assisted Living sooner rather than later then I see the need to downsize a lot of things. But if you plan on staying where you are and keeping him home for as long as possible you still want your house to be your home. That means all the "stuff" that means something to you.