I am trying to research a specific caregiving problem and cannot find information or help anywhere. My brother's mother-in-law is dying of cancer and needs around the clock care. She refuses any help from anyone other than my brother's wife, Amy, who has to feed her, change her, shower her, etc., while caring for three kids and working a full time job. Whenever Amy tries to leave her mom, who is now in an assisted living home, the mother goes on and on (while moaning and sighing) about how she is dying and how can Amy leave her alone like this when she is dying, how she needs this and that and doesn't want anyone but Amy to take care of her even though many other people are willing to help. Amy's mother has even gone so far, when she was still at home, as to call 911 as soon as Amy left her side and went to tend to her own needs. A doctor has suggested she is doing this for attention but Amy feels tremendously guilty about saying no to her mother's outrageous demands and I feel she is being manipulated into caring for her mother non-stop around the clock and is not having time for her kids and husband and not going to work or taking care of herself. How can we make her realize she is being manipulated and run ragged and that she needs to stop and take a break and set firm limits. I feel like she is being held as an emotional hostage. She says she is afraid to say no to her mother about anything because she could die at any moment and she would not be able to live with the guilt of saying no to her. I cannot find information or examples of this happening to anyone else. Where can I get help with this situation? My brother is worn out caring for his three kids himself, working fulltime and bearing his wife's grief and stress. Please help!
Is her mother on hospice? We are all, after all, dying. MIL is dying more actively and presumably sooner rather than later. How soon is that expected to be? Is she on Hospice? If she is not eligible for hospice care, then I don't think the "might die any minute" is particularly valid. Any of her children or her husband or she herself "might die any minute." That is the uncertain nature of human life. It is not something we can allow to drive all of our decisions.
But, how to convince SIL of this? That is the issue, isn't it? And I am not sure logic is going to be very effective. Maybe instead of trying to get SIL to give up her hostage status, it would work better to convince her that her children need her, and that her husband needs her. I hate to suggest you press a different guilt button. But the fact is that the time she is neglecting her children now is time she will never get back. I hope your brother is a compassionate and patient man, but this situation can wear at their relationship.
If MIL is on hospice and may literally die any minute of her cancer, and is expected to have at most a few months to live, then maybe everyone being as supportive as they can of SIL and not trying to change her would work.
This is very difficult, isn't it? Please let us know what (if anything) you try, how it works, and how this situation unfolds. We learn from each other.
The other question is, is the mother really in imminent danger of dying, or is she just very ill? I wonder if your brother arranged a couple of days' vacation at a not too distant resort hotel or something of that during the next school break, if she would see the value to getting away for just a bit and leaving mom to outside caregivers?
You might point out to your SIL (or have your brother do this) that she's not going to be any good to anyone if she gets sick from the stress of doing this by herself. People who need 24/7 care need three shifts of caregivers. Ultimately, your SIL is being quite selfish.
Suggest to SIL that she join or sit in on a support group for caregivers. The AL probably has one, or her church or the local senior center might suggest one. Also if she can visit this site, she might not feel so alone in this and will learn its okay and healthy to set boundaries and say no.
Would she be open to her husband saying something to mom?
It's very hard, but only she can set boundaries and limit visits and ignore constant phone calls. I had to do so, and my situation did improve. One thing I did was shut the phone off at 8pm in the evening. Friends, children, police have my husbands number to call if there is an emergency or they want to get ahold of me.
It allowed me to rest and have some worry free hours each day. Eventually mom stopped the evening calls. Now she rarely calls at all because she doesn't want to have to talk to my husband.
SIL can visit on set days and limit to an hr or so. I know it must be hard and not sure how close she is with mom, but mom has to adjust and understand that her daughter has other family members to care for to and HERSELF and that there are others that mom needs to rely on as well. It won't happen if SIL doesn't help her mom to rely on others.
i finally had the conversation with my mom...telling her I loved her, but couldn't be her everything and it wasn't fair to me or my family when she only wanted and only would accept my help.
I have a feeling Mom has a long history of laying on the guilt and needing more attention than necessary. Very unhealthy situation for all involved. SIL should get a schedule of those willing to help and let Mom know others care about her and will be there to do what is needed. "Mom, I have to take care of myself and my family. I cannot do it all." Mom will adjust and SIL and her family will be happier. Good luck!
Bablou, her mom is around 67. It has metastasized and there have been many doctors these past few months. My brother says she has never acted like this before and it is uncharacterstic of her. He is not sure why she is acting like this. One doctor said she is looking for attention. My brother thinks she wants people to feel sorry for her. She just got moved to assisted living the other day. My brother said that when Amy was gone, her mother would just lay there and moan nonstop super loud for hours (she was living with my bro and Amy). My brother said he did not know how to react to her moaning. He said the whole thing is really weird. I will google more as soon as I can. Thank you all so much!
I am glad to hear that this behavior wasn't life-long co-dependency. I am sorry for how early in her life Amy's mother is facing this. I don't blame Amy for wanting to do anything she can for her mother at this point.
But I also hope, for Amy's sake, that she can be persuaded to limit herself to what is reasonable, that she can accept some support from a counselor, and that she can give up the super-hero cape that makes her think she can make Mother's dying a stress-free experience for Mom. None of us have that kind of power over death.
Bless you for trying to help.
Perhaps another way you could help would be to take your nieces/nephews out for a day or a weekend, so she and your brother have one less thing to think about for several hours. Maybe you could bring a home-cooked (or restaurant) meal to their home. Or offer do to the laundry each week for a while. Gift them with a housecleaning service for a couple of months. Amy is understandably stressed right now. Trying to convince her to change her interactions with her mother could be very helpful. But there are also other practical ways to lightened her load. Keep in mind this is temporary.
Your SIL needs to either come here and read or you need to print her out a copy of a thread on "The Power of Emotional Blackmail"
https://www.agingcare.com/discussions/power-of-emotional-blackmailers-176430.htm?cpage=0&cm=440543#440543
Mainly look at the early post to Overwhelmed that describes this dynamic, its effects, who does such emotional blackmailing, how they do this, what are the origins of this, and why it is so victorious like it has been doing in your SIL's life.
Then focus on the post that begins with the sentence, "How it is defeated."
I'd have your brother come here and read this or give him a copy of it.
Her mother is only 67? Wow! How long is your SIL going to be willing to put up with this mental abuse of emotional blackmail. Does she realize that the longer she puts up with this the more she puts her relationship with her husband and children at risk. She's enmeshed with her mother and her mother is riding this for all she can get out of it. Your SIL needs some serious therapy, but she must first see that she's being abused through emotional blackmail, be willing to stop doing her part of complying with this mental/emotoinal dance, and then go get professional help to reach the goal of freedom.
Sorry to say this, but right now your brother's wife is more emotionally attached to her mom than she is to her husband or to their kids. It's sad, but not an unusual story to be read here on this site from time to time.
I hope you can send her a lifeline that she will grab and hold onto. I hope her husband can gain some insights into what is going on with his wife and MIL.
Both SIL and your brother need the same information about this emotional blackmail stuff. Its powerful, blinding F.O.G. (fear, obligation, and guilt) that sends people into auto pilot. It's quite engulfing, but it can be overcome. This F.O.G. is the path to the dark side of manipulation and it is easy to get lost in.
I hope and pray this all works out.
Would a third party, like a hospice social worker (who could be called in to make an assessment, expalin services that could be available, even if she is not "ready" for that) possibly be able to interpret what is going on and help?
And I personally don't find it so hard to understand that someone facing her own death would behave in ways uncharacteristic of her in the past. I think I might ratchet my selfishness ratio up a notch or two. (I hope not, but I wouldn't guarantee it.)
If this really is a drastic change in behavior, I don't think we have to worry about FOG and co-dependency and any other kind of dysfunctional relationships. I think it is more a matter of getting through an extremely stressful and challenging time with the least damage possible.
But, instead, you are on the site. You are looking for help. You need help, too. Here is the hard part: you have to fold your hands,close your mouth, and let her do what she is going to do. It is her head, her heart, her conscience, her mindfulness (or lack of it). She will learn a lot from this and, just maybe, she will talk about it with you someday.
When my kids were little and I was caring for grandmother on hospuce and mom with breast cancer, telling me what I should do was not helpful. Taking my kids to lunch with Santa for me, sending me over a dinner, doing some shopping for me, buying grammom new nightgowns, this is what meant the most to me and allowed me time to sort things out and make some priorities
While your SIL needs some help and the poster who suggested contacting the social worker at the AL is a good idea.
But for your brother to say about someone who is dying "they're just feeling sorry for themselves"....well it that isn't a situation to feel sorry for yourself, I don't know what is. That comment speaks volumes about him. Poor guy he has to "woman's work" and he doesn't like it.
Part of married life is having to take on an extra load when needed, sounds like your brother resents having to make dinner and get the kids to bed, it is annoying to him.
And quite frankly, this isn't your business. It's between the married couple.
Suggest to your brother someone at the AL talk to your SIL and than back out of this.
On second thought, I am not sure that the information from my thread would help. I've thought more about this and this does appear to be a unique situation and not something characteristics of her mom. I'm sorry that I jumped the gun with my advice.
Your SIL can't keep up her current pace up for much longer and it sounds like know one really has an idea when mom might die.
Whatever it is, it is some kind of emotional dance. I not sure we need a label as much as SIL somehow needs to see the need for detachment which in the heat of this crisis is going to be very hard for her to hear.
Is there a social worker there at the assisted living place that can have a family care meeting with your brother and SIL present to explain some need to detach in light of the whole situation and how much she is burning herself out. Maybe she would hear this better from a professional like a social worker who for sure has seen this kind of thing before. Maybe your brother can talk with the social worker himself and get their input and see if a family meeting might be a good approach or what would be a good approach. Those suggestions I think you could give to your brother. Does your brother have some friends that he can reach out to for giving him some practical, hands on help with the children and other things that need doing? If there is not a social worker at the assisted living place, then maybe a friend could watch the children while he sees a family counselor for some professional help for this particular situation.
I do think balance needs to be restored and I think that your brother someone needs to bring a profession into this either directly at the assisted living or directly with him. Does all of this make sense?