I don't think my husband has but a few months left. (He is still in denial and sent in his golf membership today. I'm pretty sure they will be refunding it.)
I can get a gravesite here in town for $350. Yep, you read that right! But I am not sure what the next steps are to keep things low-cost from the time he dies until he is put in the ground. (I want to be cremated, he says absolutely not for him.)
If I have to, I will put an "in lieu of flowers" statement in the obit and ask folks to contribute to the cost of the funeral home's services. To me, that is tacky but it might be necessary. I honestly don't want to have to deal with flowers any way. He made financial choices that have put us where we are but I'm the one that has to bear the brunt of his choices.
Please tell me what has worked for you.
“Almost all veterans can receive military funeral honors at no cost. They are also usually eligible for free memorial items including:
Headstones, markers, and medallions
Burial flag
Presidential Memorial Certificate”
You get get information from the veteran affairs office.
https://www.usa.gov/veteran-burial-benefits
To avoid any pressure to make a commitment or spend money now, I'd say I was gathering information to help a friend who was trying to plan ahead, or something.
The overall concept was, arrange for direct cremation, and do not use funeral home services for anything else, AND arrange this from the least expensive possible place. Then after the cremation has taken place, hold a memorial or religious event anywhere you like, and structure it as you like -- invite people to speak, or read thing out loud, or sing for that matter -- or just have people get together and reminisce about the person. Or have a traditional thing in a church or someplace like that.
I would think a potluck could be a very nice, warm occasion. And maybe people could chip in for some costs, like beverages. To me -- this is the place for feeling, for honoring the dead, etc. And coming up with the $$$$ for a funeral parlor just isn't necessary in order to do the right thing.
You probably need a licensed funeral director to deal with the details of arranging for the cremation and for getting the ashes to you: use the lowest-cost funeral home that is in the extended geographic area -- if there's a lower-income city near you who will serve you, check there. Because you are not going to care at all what the place is like, or even how convenient it is, as you won't be going there or inviting people there.
(Example -- I called places in Manhattan, which cost $9000. for this basic service, and then I called places in Staten Island, which cost $800 for the exact same thing.]
And - my sympathy and best wishes to you whenever this comes to pass.
When my aunt died and was cremated, she was buried in her favorite cookie jar. My mother was scattered. My Sister-in-Law was buried in the cardboard box she came home in with her favorite fabric and ribbon wrapped around her box. I still have some of the fabric and take it out once in a while and think of her.
Some people have a potluck in a park. You just pay a minimal fee for use of the park.
If family starts to give you grief bacause you aren't spending more money, let them foot the bill. Not just promise to help. foot the entire thing up front.
I know that I definitely don’t want a traditional funeral with a viewing. I hate those. I most likely will be cremated and buried in our family plot, but I definitely like the idea of a ‘green’ funeral. It seems so much more sensible.
The article that I was reading said that funeral homes don’t like to suggest it because they won’t make a lot of money from doing green burials. They also stated that Jesus was buried in this manner, no coffin, just a shroud.
There is only one funeral home near me that does ‘green’ burials. I find that sad.
Of course, it is cheaper than a traditional burial with a casket. It’s also cheaper than cremation which isn’t green.
So, the price is right for cutting costs. You still have to buy a plot.
It is interesting to read our own state laws regarding what is and isn’t allowed in our areas.
Prepaid plans are best because when the end comes you won't believe how many other things you will be dealing with.
Be sure that hospice or hospital have the name and number of the funeral home so that they can call them directly when the death occurs and everything will be taken care of by the funeral home.
Try to find a friend or distant relative who can stay with you for a couple of days when he dies. I have both been that friend and relied on a friend to take care of incoming calls, deal with fielding demands, and organizing stuff coming in and going out. It is really amazing how much stuff goes on when someone dies.
This should include answering the phone and screening calls. It is amazing how many companies try to sell you stuff and how many scammers claim that the recently deceased owe them money. Just make a list of the people that you do want to talk to. The rest can be told that you are resting and that you will be given a message. Your friend can make a list of callers and their phone numbers and one line messages. Only call back the ones you choose to call. This friend can also receive and deal with gifts of food or flowers. You can simply stay in a quiet place out of sight and deal with only the things you are ready for.
As for the money in lieu of flowers idea, use it if you need to. I do not think it is tacky. When people order flowers or send food they are trying to help you, to support you and show that they care. If you direct them to give the care and support that you really need, you are doing them a favor. Personally, I would much rather give you a check for $50 than to spend that amount for an arrangement that will be displayed for the funeral and then thrown out. It makes sense. If you were wealthy you may consider flowers an indication of others' concern for you and enjoy them. As it is, they can show their concern for you in a much more needed way.
Take care of yourself, this isn't easy. Please know that many of us have gone through this and will understand that your decisions will need to be the ones that are best for you. Hugs.
I have instructed my family to bury me on our property (we have some acreage) with no casket -perfectly legal in our state and locality. The main expense will be to hire someone to dig the grave and cover it up after the burial (probably a few hundred dollars).
My father-in-law wanted to be buried in a quilt his cousin gave him in his family's multi-generational cemetery. When he died in our local hospital, they kept him in in the morgue there (where it was cool) overnight. We had to obtain a burial permit from the local health department to transport him across state lines, but the state we buried him in also does not require a casket. Between these two states, embalming was also not required. We put him in the back of our Suburban and drove him over 300 miles to the rural family cemetery. We stopped at his house first to fetch the quilt, and we wrapped him in it.
A family member in the area knew the local funeral home director, who lent us straps to lower him into the grave and arranged for a guy to dig the grave and cover it up (a few hundred dollars). We had a brief, informal ceremony with just family (no preachers or funeral directors required).
My father-in-law got what he wanted -a simple burial, wrapped in a quilt, with no lavish ceremony. We didn't have to pay thousands or tens of thousands of dollars for funeral homes, which are mostly conglomerates nowadays, to line their greedy pockets at the expense of poor grieving family members.
Definitely do your homework. Look at all your options and be prepared, so when the time comes, you'll be ready to spring your plan into action (if you don't embalm, the clock is ticking with ongoing degradation of the body). If your state/local laws are as lax as they are here, you can save a lot of money by avoiding a casket, vault, embalming, etc. If your state laws aren't restrictive, but local laws are, research neighboring rural areas and nearby counties for their laws and contact local cemeteries there if needed.
Save additional money if you're not afraid to be "hands-on." If dealing with a decomposing corpse of your loved one is not appealing to you, then by all means contact every local funeral home, explain your situation, and see what they have to offer with your limited budget. That might be the best first step regardless, as they will know the local and state laws. Even if you don't need them to do the services, they might perform certain a la carte services, such as transportation of the body or digging of the grave. If you're dealing with a funeral home corporate conglomerate, they might not deal with you at all. They will likely try to sell you various packages, full of all kinds of useless add-ons. All they're interested in is your money.
I cousins who are doing this. They are donating their bodies to Tulane, a local teaching hospital here. It cost nothing but the body goes for a good cause. Same for organ donation.
Future condolences and prayers...
1) My mother died when I was a teenager, so I was not really involved in her arrangements (except for having to go look at caskets, which was so sad and traumatic, and her husband ended up going for the cheapest option anyway). But, she was buried in the county cemetery, and I was able to have my older brother's and dad's ashes buried in her plot later for much lower cost than if we had to purchase a plot for each. My other brother and I did a graveside service ourselves on the weekend when cemetery staff did not work, after the ashes were buried, and there was no cost for that. We didn't have markers made, but we knew they were there, plus we're not big on visiting graves anyway. If you belong to a church, your pastor or priest may officiate for you.
2) My adult daughter passed away unexpectedly several years ago. I was pretty active in my church and my congregation took it upon themselves to raise enough funds to pay for the cremation and a wonderful reception after the memorial. Tons of family and friends attended and participated in the service, with our pastor officiating. It still warms my heart that she had such a warm send-off in a heartbreaking time. My husband and son and daughter did some surfing and we held a "paddle-out" at their favorite beach. I created a biodegradable container for her ashes and they went out beyond the breakers and submerged them till they sank to the bottom. Flower leis were floated on the water at the spot. (I don't think that's technically legal, but we never had repercussions.)
3) My husband's sister lost her husband after a long illness a couple of years ago. He always thought he was going to survive and never made any pre-need arrangements. They had absolutely no money to work with, and no credit. The cremation care people suggested that his body could be donated to science for tissue and organ donation, after which the remainder of the body would be cremated at no cost, and the ashes returned. She thought that with his lifelong wish to help people, he would be okay with that, as were she and the family. Later, close family gathered on their property on a mountain top and buried his ashes under the first tree they had planted together decades before. Wife, children and grands each contributed to a marker of sorts made of rocks, pine cones and a plaque. Very low-key but meaningful, touching and satisfying. Also probably not technically legal, but nobody comes out to check. You just have to say when you pick up the ashes that you will retain them at your home.
Hope some of this helps. Wishing you peace in the journey.
I know you don't have much time left to do this and I am sad for you. Maybe have a graveside service, a local preacher if you know one. If he is a veteran, the funeral home should obtain a flag for him, free of charge. Obituaries are very expensive here, but a short note can be entered in the newspaper, or not.
Someone here suggested veterans cemetery, but that only gives you what you already have...a plot. SSA will give $255 to spouse of deceased and you can ask funeral director for forms to get it. Not much, but take it. (As a note, only a spouse gets it - odd but true. If you remain unmarried after hubby does, no one can claim the 255 for your death. Unless the rules have changed this year, it's been same amount since 1954!)
First, visit funeral home(s) midway between your home (or hospital where he would be when he passes) and the cemetery you will use. Transport costs money.
Ask about pricing and discuss your financial situation. Some cemeteries mandate vault in the ground to put casket into, some don't. Some areas require embalming and some don't. Some caskets are thousands of dollars and some are very simple cheaper material. You can purchase a casket online as well.
When you use any part of funeral facility, there's a charge. Cutting costs will likely amount to funeral home picks up body, embalm or not depending on law in your area, the casket, no viewing or services at funeral home - only do graveside service, and a fee to dig/cover the grave.
Very simple affair at a graveside. The location where goodbye words are spoken will not diminish the meaning.
Best to begin comparison shopping for both of you now. You never know what can happen. Wished would be known and you could start making payments.
On another note, hubby's optimism by paying next years fees can be a good thing. Better than living with depression and despair.
maybe you can get him to realize that whether he is not cremated or cremated the results are the same…
I remembered how nice and natural my in laws looked in Europe without puffed up, made up, unnatural looking embalming, so I looked into it and found out it is not necessary. That cut out over one thousand dollars. We did not have a wake. The church mass cost nothing as she and we are paying members. We chose a simple but elegant casket. I did not write over the entire check because I told the funeral director that I needed to have a lunch afterwards. The entire funeral cost $6,300. The obituary on their site was free. I didnt order flowers. Thankfully there were two beautiful arrangements sent by cousins. It was simple,elegant and dignified and most importantly, extremely spiritual..just like her.
Cemetery was an additional cost which me and my adult children all chipped in for. (I now know to up the $$ ante for my end of life insurance in order to cover that too.)