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I didn't hate my mother, but I was quite afraid of her my entire life. Things went ok after I learned how to behave to keep her happy, though I had panic attacks from childhood through my 20's. Got married just to get away from her. Loved being a mom, always talked tenderly to my kids: to avoid how I grew up. After 24 yrs, I divorced, & mother needed help shortly afterwards. I didn't expect the panic to come back, but she was impossible to please & nasty, (memories of my past flooded in).


Now, 6yrs later, she's dead, & I suddenly feel safe. I did cry for a week during her palliative care, (sorry for her misery). Now I cope by taking the advice of many here: exercising & keeping busy (with the estate for now). But I'm surprised at the relief I feel (& cannot tell my family that stuff). Anyone had similar? Thank you.

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Caring for an aging parent, much less an abusive one is stressful. I rarely see my mother she remembers me but does not recognize me which is fine with me. She’s actually fairly polite now although talks about her “daughter”( me) and how awful she is ( part of her abusive personality) . Took me years but I know I’m not what she says I am. I miss having a relationship with my mother but the only one possible is me allowing her to be cruel to me so now I’m happier as the acquaintance “Wife” of the maintenance man/ taxi driver / neighbor Or who ever she thinks my husband , her SIL , is that day lol
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My dear, what you feel is normal. You did NOT have a good relationship but you felt sorry for her suffering. That is normal but be glad you are free and she is gone. Now YOU won't have to suffer any more. If she wasn't loving and kind and there was no wonderful relationship, you are entitled to feel relief and should never have any guilt. She deserved to go if she had such a negative impact on you. No one deserves that treatment. Now - may peace be with you.
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Your feelings are your own just as much as your experience (with an abusive mother) is your own experience. Nobody can tell you how your supposed to feel. Im sorry you were dealt a bad hand in life. You may have PTSD as a result of years of bad treatment. Counseling might help you make sense of feelings, come to terms with the fact that you were not a bad child, but that your mother was not capable of the motherly love you showed your own children. Maybe someday you can forgive her, and that is very liberating.🕊
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Why on earth would you be guilty or upset. Praise God it is over. It is like people who are in dangerous or bad situations, or jobs, or marriages, or housing, whatever. They want to "escape" but they are stuck but once they do succeed in moving on, they find peace. This is your blessing. You should be at peace - no guilt of any kind or remorse.
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Your feelings are your feelings. They are neither right nor wrong. We can't control our feelings, we can only control how we outwardly react to the feelings we have towards a situation.

Do what you can to make your own life BETTER from here.

Good luck!
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I’m 44 and also feel the same relief and happiness, my father recently passed away. I feel so liberated to know I no longer have to live in fear of him nor experience his toxicity toward me.
He was a nasty aggressive, abusive narcissist who would manipulate situations to try and spread resentment and hate among people, whilst pretending to be nice.
After all these years I still have panic attacks if I have to read or speak in public. When I was 6 he beat me every couple of days with his belt if I couldn’t read the words from my school reading book. In the end I was so scared of reading I’d hide my school books or lie and say I wasn’t given one to avoid the beatings. He’d then brag to my aunt on how stupid and thick I was, and that I wouldn’t amount to anything. I have spent my whole life trying to avoid him and the verbal abuse.
I had never had anyone to fight my corner and was too ashamed to bring boyfriends home in the past, until I got married a few years back. My husband experienced his behaviour first hand and was shocked, but all came to a head a few months ago when my father was told had to have an operation. Unfortunately he became even more bitter and nasty on my last visit prior to surgery, to the point my husband had to step in.
I told him goodbye and explained to my mother I would not be seeing him ever again, this time he'd gone too far, but to keep me abreast of his progress.
My mother is a vacuous, immature, weak, personality who was easily influenced by my father, she behaved and treated me exactly the same way as he did. Her only saving grace is she is sensitive so would show some kindness at times toward me. But if my father was around she’d switch and treated me the same way as he did. That didn’t stop him from being verbally abusive toward her, she’d sometimes try to argue back but to no avail.
I feel sorry for her because it’s clear this is due to a lack of proper parenting, confidence, and self-worth, whereas I feel no sympathy for my dead father. Even as I type I’m scared he’s going to find out and hurt me, which is daft I know but that’s what trauma does to you.
For everyone who has suffered by the hands of these dysfunctional rotter’s, find solace in that there are many more people out there who feel/felt the same as you do, but are/were too scared to say it out aloud. Be brave, embrace your feelings and find peace. x
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2020
Your explanation is very clear. Thanks for sharing. So sorry you endured this pain in your life. I admire you for standing up for yourself and protecting yourself.
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No. My mom died 6 years ago this past October. I've not shed one tear for her. Her abuse was multifaceted.
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You betcha!!! When my sister called with the news that our mother had died suddenly at age 65, my first thought was, “Ding, dong the witch is dead! At 43, I was finally free from her meanness and drama! Not proud of this but it is what it is.
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To me relief is normal and healthy when a toxic relationship ends - no matter how it ends. My borderline personality disordered mother passed just over a year ago. I still feel the relief. I have a whole new life ahead of me
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My mother was verbally abusive, I was the family scapegoat. I assumed what she told everyone about me was true and didn’t realize it was all her projecting her terrible qualities into me even though I did none of the things she said. It led to lifelong self doubt and self loathing. I still can not stand to look at myself in a mirror. At around 50 I began to somehow realize nothing I’d been told by her was true, from inconsequential things ,for example where she got a lipstick holder, to facts about me, my appearance and life. That was so shocking to me, to realize how I’d been lied to and about my whole life I felt physically ill when I thought about it. She’s still alive, 93. I’m her medical POA, hilarious when you think about because it shows she knows her other two children would do everything they could to hasten her death( as my sister said, they feel her medical care is cutting in to their inheritance) while me, the supposed lying dirt bag never would lol.
I have as little to do with her as possible. The few times I have been around her she still, even with dementia, gaslights and it just rips the bandaid off old wounds I’ve tried to deal with. Inheritance or not( I expect my sister will attempt to get me off the will), I’ll be glad when she’s gone. Honestly, too much water under that bridge and it’s not going change. Better for me to move on and be with people who actually DO love and appreciate me.
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marymary2 Dec 2019
I know it's no consolation, but we have the exact same situation. I hope we both are able to find some peace one day.
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This answer may be somewhat different than maybe your other answers. And I want to start by telling you that it is not shameful to feel relief from the passing of someone who represented abuse in your life. Every one of us have the right to peace in our lives. And all of that "not speaking ill o f the dead" is a little silly. If someone hurt you, because they are dead now? What they did doesn't matter and you have to "suck it up?" That's garbage. And you feel the way you feel. They are your feelings. And to get or be confused by someone else's opinion is BS. You know what kind of relationship you had, and no one else....especially here online. And them dying doesn't excuse what they did. Being dead doesn't make them NOT wrong. In other words, yes you have a right to the way you feel. Don't let anyone tell you how you feel. Just saying.
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marymary2 Dec 2019
You are so right with "you know what kind of relationship you had and no one else...". So often people (not here but in our own lives) assume they know what went on behind closed doors when they weren't around.
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I have had an experience similar to yours. I too was afraid of my mother - she was quite mean. It's been a year, and my life is fuller and I feel liberated. A good therapist helps to erase any guilt that may creep in. Enjoy your life.
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Shell38314 Dec 2019
I will try to keep your post in my mind!
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I will never look back. Still caring for mom after 8 yrs and it has been very difficult. I can’t wait for relief. As I said - I will never look back - either negatively nor positively. I just want to move on.
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NeedHelpWithMom Dec 2019
I get that. Sometimes we go numb. Extended caregiving changes us.
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You have my permission to feel relieved! It is normal and correct to feel relieved and safe from her abuse and the misunderstood guilt that you learned to feel from her. She may have been abused herself but it is never ok to abuse another.
I had a very angry and emotionally abusive father. I was so relieved when I heard he died because my fear was I would have to take care of him and I feared for my mental health. After he died, I sang all the way to the hospital, felt a huge weight off my shoulders, about cried for happiness that the pain would stop for him and for all of us in the family. I am happy for you and do let yourself dance and sing with joy. You are normal and wise. You recognized the abuse and are careful to not pass that on to your children. You broke the chain of abuse. You are to be commended!
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🦋🦋To answer your question, your feelings or emotions are completely normal! Relief is not something you should feel shameful for experiencing. 🦋🦋
In a counseling session I would ask if it was okay to say "congratulations, for being free from the abuse ." 🧸😊 And here I would add that, "you're free from abuse that wasn't your fault no matter what you were told."

It's not your fault,
it was NEVER your fault.
repeat that
It's not your fault
It's not your fault

You were likely shamed for your entire life, which is a tactic manipulative psychological abusers love to implement. Guilt and shame. It was all about controlling you, through guilt and shame. Now that you're away from that abuse, you'll begin to realize more stuff about your mother's tactics. It's not your fault.

Although your mind has been trained to utilize the same shame tactics bestowed upon you by your abusive mum, you have permission from everyone here to feel relieved. You can, again exhale in relief. 💚

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It's not shameful for feeling relieved.🦋 You're free from abuse. Hugs. 💙
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I can totally empathize on how you are feeling. My situation is . Our father is still alive and lately I have been wishing he would die. He's 83 and has slight dementia. ie his memory is very bad and he's doing and saying things that upset me. He is fundamentalist Catholic and constantly preaches to me and my sister. It drives us crazy. It's got worse since Mum died this year. I know he's grieving and my husband and I are the only ones that offer him support by visiting him.and doing stuff for him. My sister lives far away enough not to have to do anything. She harbours great resentment and rage towards him as she was constantly smacked by him as a kid and now she's got all this hate in her which she unloaded onto me recently as her own marriage is suffering.
I know I sound terrible saying all these things, but I can't bottle them up any longer.
Yes I have a very complex dynamic with my father in. that I love him but resent him also.
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anonymous828521 Aug 2019
It's so hard to feel distant from our mom or dad, even if they were nasty. We will always long for what should have been... a safe & happy parent bond. Even today, I still feel distress, & critical of myself for being unlovable.
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Tiger,

This is so common. I know many people in your shoes. My MIL had a hateful mother and MIL was an only child so she caught the entire brunt of it. Some people had a less than desirable mother. It’s unfortunate. She always told me that she would never treat me like she was treated. She kept her word. She was so lovely to me. She used to pray that she wouldn’t turn into her mom. She didn’t use that frame of reference. She broke the cycle!

After I married my husband I would help take care of the old ‘witch’ (I mean grandma, Hahaha, sorry for my brutal honesty and wicked sense of humor!) so MIL could have a break from her mother. She was horrible. I can empathize because I only had a taste of it from hubby’s grandma but you carried the brunt like my MIL did. Sorry that happened to you.

My MIL also had a rotten MIL too. My mother in law said to me one day, “Do you know how lucky you are to have your mom and me, your MIL love you?” She didn’t have that love from her family. I told her that I was grateful for their love. MIL has been dead for a long time now but she lives in my heart forever. I learned a lot from her love and wisdom.

Years later at her mom’s and her MIL’s funeral she was crying. I offered condolences. She replied to me something I will never forget, she said, “I am not crying because they are dead, I am crying for what could have been. It didn’t have to be like it was. They didn’t have to hate me. I only wanted to love them and be loved.” How sad. Her mother wrote hate mail from the hospital bed to all of us. Most people want to have peace before death. She kept hating.

So to answer your question, your feelings or emotions are completely normal! Hugs!

I have always loved reading your posts. You remind me of my sweet MIL. The damage didn’t destroy you. You turned it around and showed love and compassion to others.

I would bet my last dollar if I asked your children if they felt your love they would unanimously say yes! I so admire people who don’t pass on the hurt because it’s very easy for hurting people to hurt others. Take care, Tiger.
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
Very kind of u NeedHelpWithMom, thank you💟. I'm glad that I had a lovely MIL for 24 years, who was nothing like my own mother. (Knowing MIL helped me to believe that I could be different too). MIL is now 92 almost, still gentle & pleasant. 👍
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Not by any means. Simply because you have a complex relationship dynamic that enables you to both love and resent someone does not mean anything is wrong with you or that your feelings are shameful.

Parents are simply human beings who created and shaped you. There are many sayings and proverbs about this type of things, i.e. "the family you come from is seldom the family you end up with," etc.

It's very difficult to grapple with the concept that hey my parent was a total manipulator or he/she was actually pretty cruel, etc., simply because people who instill fear or shame or other negative self-esteem threatening emotions within us often exploit our vulnerability and as a built-in fail safe mechanism, we become afraid to speak out or deviate from the sense of identity we've developed as a result of those formative behaviours.
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
Thanks 'willpower', it's true about the 'threatening emotions' that persist. Hoping it gets easier over the next few months. Must continue to try new things, for now.
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I have found this thread quite revealing. Having already supported OP in the fact she should be perfectly happy in the skin of feelings she has - and never feel guilt, I find that reading more and more people's situations has brought not only my feelings about my mother but also my father into my thoughts. As a young child I was a Daddy's girl like a lot of little girls, until he did something unreasonable in the way of punishment of my younger brother when I was about 10 which destroyed in one move any respect I had for him - and for me respect and love go together. He died about 10 years ago and my SIL tried to persuade me to go and visit although I had not seen him for 15 years, (she's very religious) kept telling me I would regret it one day if I didn't - well 10 years later I have no regrets, the man who was my father had been dead to me for so long I hardly noticed his mortal passing. So we come to my mother - who is unfortunately due to some total mental aberration of mine, living in annex on our house. I suppose it seemed logical at the time but in honesty I know it was a stupid idea. She I hate - and I mean hate - she was abusive from the time I was four, always rude, always put one down, criticised, had very erratic behaviour, and was the master of the guilt trip, always criticised weight to outsiders (even though she supplied diet lol) even examples of her trying to cause physical as well as mental harm, including on one occasion feeding me my father's anti psychotic medication instead if antibiotic I was meant to be on, and assisting me off cliffs at beach (only about 15 feet) into river which ran down to sea. Got more and more jealous as I became a teen. Can you think of any reason why I will ever forgive her or tolerate her in any way? Not only will I not be sorry when she dies, nor feel I have lost something and gained some safety and sanity, I will positively celebrate that she has gone. I don't need counselling have had that over the years until I came across a wonderful person who listened rather than spoke and "gave me permission" to choose whether to try and make something logical and understandable from it all - or just to accept things happened many of which I had blacked out, and I could just choose to accept there were things but I didn't want to know about them - the relief that woman (as it happens) gave was immeasurable, literally a weight lifted from my life - antidepressants in the bin, just from being given permission to make my own choice - so no matter what anyone thinks about guilt or feelings someone should have, I will always 100% support them in doing what they feel right and giving of most freedom to them, other's views and opinions are just that, the OP and anyone else in a similar position should listen to no-one bar their inner self and seek support only if and when they feel it would benefit them. Hugs to all who have been through bad times and still struggle - give yourself the permissions you need to manage and to deal with things. You all have my 100% support. xxxx
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
Thank u TaylorUK, it's a complex journey... I've been looking for a job or project, to keep my mind focused. (Days just drag by lately). ((Hugs 2u:))
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TaylorUK: Thank you, but I had always known this great uncle existed but didn't know how kind a person he was because my husband's parents were the polar opposites of this man. My FIL was an alcoholic and my MIL was a mentally ill woman who placed food ontop her 6 childrens' heads if they didn't eat it. She also scrubbed one of her 4 daughters' face with a wire brush AND said to her "go in the other room so I don't have to see you." Also she threw the child's bike down a set of basement stairs after the child had saved up her OWN money to buy said bike. The great uncle story had absolutely NO BEARING on my husband's and my relationship. Thank you for understanding.
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Tiger55: You're very welcome.
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No. My Mom went through the abusive stage but was otherwise never a problem. I loved her dearly throughout but am extremely relieved she has passed. I'm happy for her as her condition was tipping into misery. I'm happy for me as the long care giving journey took a real toll. I'm happy for my husband and his children as I wasn't participating in their lives like I should have. It is ok. It is especially expected in your case. You did great to work to be a more loving Mom yourself and to provide care for her at the end. Be happy. Hugs.
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Wow, for me it was my dad. He had a stroke that left him disabled and very bitter. If it hadn’t have been for my Mother I would have called Adult Protective Services and let them deal with him. For her sake we put up with 18 years of his unhappiness and selfishness because we knew that he would take it out on her if we stood up to him or didn’t do what he wanted.

I loved my father and mourned the man he was before the stroke. But I was relieved when he died. He did nothing to help himself recover, just gave up and did the bare minimum. He would sit in the kitchen all day while Mom cooked and cleaned and waited on him. I told them both that I was not going to be the maid and hired care givers and cleaners that he was rude and dismissive to.

He finally accepted help when his condition deteriorated to the point he couldn’t stand up without help but was not happy about it.

So when he died I was relieved that the stress and worry was over. The first day my sister, Momand I cleared out the "nest" of clutter he had amassed around his chair. It was very cathartic to all of us to get rid of that stuff.
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One of the best treatments of this topic I have found to help clients who come to my office for help with elder care planning and estate settlement and probate is a booklet by H. Norman Wright called: Experiencing Grief. The author would probably say that yours are healthy emotions that help with healing.

Each chapter in the booklet is 2 -3 short pages, and your question is one of many that are treated with wonderful insight.

After the tree on the front cover, there is only 1 other picture illustration in the booklet. It is a diagram of all the bad feelings that can overwhelm a person if they don't admit and (as the title recommends) experience grieving. It is a picture of serious problems that sprout and spout from "denial" of grief.

Your thoughful post points toward the path to healing that all of us need to seek.
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
It's a rollercoaster of emotions...that affect my physical pain level also. (On some days I'm actually exhausted from the cycle). Worsened cuz I'm not as resilient as when I was young). Thanks for your expert reply Mr. Roberts.
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Growing up was also like that with my Mother. As I aged and started looking like a women my Mother's hatred for me was out of control. She would call me anytime of the day or night calling me every name I can't mention here.

It took me along time to realize the jealousy she had. My mother lost her teenage years and her younger adult years when she married at 14. She didn't realize all that until I started to grow up. She despised my independence. She showered my sister's with love and material things. She had me working at 12 yrs old.

She controlled me most of my life and I do think that's the reason my marriages failed.

My single's life between marriages, she was the worst. I had children and she went after them too. That woke me up. No more! Did she still yell at me ? Hell yeah! Did it bother me. No!

Now in my sixties, Mom has been sick for two years and she is as hateful as ever. I thought I was past all that abuse but those memories are back and the hurt too.

Yep, I take care of her. Do it all like many on this blog. I do it because my Dad is almost at the end of his life journey and she is there as well.

I don't hate her. She is part of the reason I have a wonderful relationship with my children and the wonderful man in my life. She taught me to NEVER be like her.

So sometimes I'm strong and I have to work through my feelings. My Dad raised my Mom and spoiled her, however she also needs to be held accountable for her behavior.

Now, I have had a few battles with her. No abuse, no name calling from me but she knows where I stand. I leave wounded and hurt but will not go back to that abuse that is hurtful now like it was yesterday.

Will I feel relieved when she is gone? Probably so but I will miss the hope of the Mom she could of been. But then again, to my childre/grandchildren, my hope is that I have became that person she could never me.

You sound like a wonderful and caring person. You did all you could and more. That in itself is a victory. No shame should befall you.

Blessings to you.
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
SometimesStrong: 💝What a heroic story & I'm so impressed by your strength. Thank you for sharing & God bless your family😅.
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Hello Tiger55! I understand and support your feelings and decision! While I cannot say I hate my father, I will also say I don’t know how truly sad I will feel when he passes away. There were things he said to me I carried in to my adult life that I had to give to the Lord and be set free from, very hurtful words. But he didn’t just say them to me, he has always been a bitter angry person. And now he is a pitiful, tired shell of what he once was; with one thing after another hitting his health. I feel sorry for any human having to suffer, but I’ll also let go of the sorry feelings when he is gone. I said all of this to say I believe you’re ok with how you feel. Cheers! Remember, we’re all here for you!
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
True, 'tirednurse02', I'm glad I took care of my mother & wasn't hateful. But I have to be careful not to dwell on any negative past memories, so I can avoid depression. Thanks for sharing:)
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I don't see anything for you to feel guilty about. I also see nothing wrong with posting about it here. I do think it's good you aren't discussing it with your family. My mother died a few years ago. I'm sure she wasn't a perfect parent. Who is? Heaven knows I wasn't. But she wasn't abusive, she did love her children, and I think she was a good mother. I loved her very much, and miss her still.

My oldest sister didn't get along with our mother for reasons I don't really understand. When our mother died, this sister wasted no time going on social media and proclaiming to the world how delighted she was that our mother was dead. I have no intention of ever speaking to that sister again.
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
Gosh that's hard, so sad that your sister didnt @least apologize to the family (and even post a f.b. apology!) It would help, cuz people do make those kind of mistakes these days. I'm sure she regrets it.
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Shame is an interesting word because it suggests we feel we are doing something wrong. I shall certainly feel no shame when my mother dies and will celebrate. Its a discussion I have had with Dr who I think finds it difficult to believe anyone can feel that way, but multiple narcissistic years with what was known as a munchausen's patient who was jealous, put children down telling them they were no good at anything, criticised incessantly even telling me I shouldn't have a third child because it would make it difficult for them to visit, (fortunately for a period of 12 years I had a wonderful stepfather who kept her under control - unfortunately he has been dead for 25 years). I shall certainly celebrate when she dies and feel no shame over it, she has destroyed all my need to emotions that I need have any guilt and therapists have supported my right to self determination. I could have turned out a right bitch - actually due to my grandmother who was so very different, and the fact I have been in the fortunate position to be able to help others less fortunate in life, I don't share a single trait with my mother - which if I did I would indeed feel shame for.
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
Thank you TaylorUK... it's hard to explain, but I guess it seemed like my job to make my mom happy... (it isn't, of course). Always felt like I was trying to make her like me...(she never did). Growing up, we never had any bond, & it made me very anxious, wondering what I'd done wrong to make her reject me. Sadly, that pattern repeated in my marriage.
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Please keep in mind: feelings are just feelings.  They are not facts. Not moral or immoral acts. Under the circumstances you describe you have no reason to feel any guilt. You had reason to be afraid after all.  We are all human but if we are doing the best we can to do the moral thing, then there is no reason to feel guilt.
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anonymous828521 Jul 2019
Thank you rovana💟
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