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If driving at specific times worries you then driving at anytime should be a concern. You can disable the car so that it can not be driven. You can get rid of the car You can take away the keys. You can put a device on the car so you know where it is but that will not protect the others on the road or the occupants of the vehicle being driven. Ask yourself this... If there was a device that allowed mom (or dad) to drive ONLY between the hours of 9 AM and 3PM would you let your child or grand child go with them to the ice cream shop or the park? If the answer is NO then they should not be driving.
Our OP hasn't been back to discuss, or to answer, or apparently to pick up messages here, so it MAY be just a sort of tickle-me-post. I hope she returns to explain.
Good grief. She must not drive at all. AM or PM makes no difference. You need to get a grip on the fact that she has dementia. It’s not just a word - it’s a fatal disease that destroys brains. If she’s driving around and hits a few people, it’s a big deal. Vehicular homicide. Manslaughter. Possible legal problems for you because you know she’s incapacitated and didn’t stop her. Lawsuit from the victims’ families.
Is that how you want to spend the last days or years of your mom’s life?
Yes. It's called a pair of pliers. Attach them to the spark plugs. Pull them clear OUT of the car so it cannot be operated at ALL at ANY time of day or night. Tippy-toeing around the issue of whether a demented elder should be driving a motor vehicle is asking for a terrible accident to happen and to be liable for the consequences of such a thing!
Alva, according to her profile she's caring for her mom who has some type of dementia, and you and I both know that when dementia is involved the person should not be driving at all.
If your mom is getting confused while driving and you're wanting to disable her car during certain hours, it means that she shouldn't be driving at all. As in AT ALL! How horrible it would be if in her confusion she would hit and kill someone. It's time to get her doctor to tell her that it's no longer safe for her to be driving and report her to the DMV. Then you take away her keys and permanently disable her car if needed, or better yet sell it. You must do whatever is necessary to not only keep your mom safe, but all the innocent people who may be in her path while she's driving.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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You can get rid of the car
You can take away the keys.
You can put a device on the car so you know where it is but that will not protect the others on the road or the occupants of the vehicle being driven.
Ask yourself this...
If there was a device that allowed mom (or dad) to drive ONLY between the hours of 9 AM and 3PM would you let your child or grand child go with them to the ice cream shop or the park? If the answer is NO then they should not be driving.
I know it's Indiana... but damn...
Is that how you want to spend the last days or years of your mom’s life?
As you see, folks have jumped ahead to the issue behind it.
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How horrible it would be if in her confusion she would hit and kill someone.
It's time to get her doctor to tell her that it's no longer safe for her to be driving and report her to the DMV.
Then you take away her keys and permanently disable her car if needed, or better yet sell it.
You must do whatever is necessary to not only keep your mom safe, but all the innocent people who may be in her path while she's driving.