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Thanks freqflier-that is true, there is some argument for giving her the benefit of the doubt.
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I say talk to her about this. If she has an attitude and demeans you, then you will have to let her go, no matter how good she is with your mom.
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looloo Nov 2019
More votes for talking to her! Wish I weren’t so nervous about it.
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I would have a problem trusting her. Just talk to her and let her know how you feel. Let her know that this behavior will not be tolerated. It's called stealing.
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looloo Nov 2019
Yeah, It’s definitely a loss of trust. And I do need to communicate that it’s not ok.
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"We talk/text regularly, and if a purchase needs to be made, she’s always mentioned it." Exactly why I thought that perhaps your mother wanted to buy a present either for you or for her or someone else.

Be human about it. Pick up the phone and call her and say something like "Best caregiver ever, I'm hoping this has a simple explanation but I got a notification from my mother's credit card that you used it on Amazon." And then be quiet and listen to what she says.

Whatever explanation she offers, just accept it. There's no point in interrogating her. You want her to know that you know. This situation reminds me of a scene in the movie "Annie Hall":

ALVY'S FATHER
You fired the cleaning woman?

ALVY'S MOTHER
She was stealing.

ALVY'S FATHER
But she's colored.

ALVY'S MOTHER
SO?

ALVY'S FATHER
So the colored have enough trouble.

ALVY'S MOTHER
She was going through my pocketbook!

ALVY'S FATHER
They're persecuted enough!

ALVY'S MOTHER
Who's persecuting? She stole!

ALVY'S FATHER
All right-so we can afford it.

ALVY'S MOTHER
How can we afford it? On your pay?
What if she steals more?

ALVY'S FATHER
She's a colored woman, from Harlem!
She has no money! She's got a right
to steal from us! After all, who is
she gonna steal from if not us?
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looloo Nov 2019
Lol! I love that movie, and that scene was hilarious 😆

anyway, I am feeling cowardly about actually talking to her about it.

if my mother wanted to buy a gift, again, caregiver would have said something to me. Anyway, you are right about me needing to put on my big girl pants and say something
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Just be up front and to the point with the care giver: I saw that you made what appears to be a personal purchase on Amazon with my mother's credit card the other day. I cancelled the order but wanted to speak to you about it before drawing any conclusions. Period. See what she has to say; if it sounds like BS, it's probably BS and she's trying to get away with using your mother's CC for her own benefit. On the other hand, she would have to be pretty dumb to think she'd get away with such a thing, realistically. That's why you are giving her a chance to explain her actions before making a decision to fire her or keep her on. Don't be emotional when speaking to her; just be matter of fact and go from there.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME.
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looloo Nov 2019
Yep. More feedback that I need to say something. I can’t argue with your logic. Thanks!
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It seems to me that the best approach would be to talk to the care giver before obsessing over it. Maybe it's a present for you from your mom. No knowing until you get it straight from the care giver's mouth. If you report her to the agency they will call the police on her, then much is out of your hands about what to do. I found missing money a couple of times and let it pass because these workers have a very low salary and no job security. All I did was ask if they knew what happened to the money so that they were aware that I was keeping track.
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looloo Nov 2019
I gotta say emphatically no to the possibility of it being a gift to me, lol! Yes, I really do not want to contact the agency about this.

it sounds like you handled the missing money really well. I’ll try to use the same kind of approach.
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Maybe, it was done by mistake? Do you have auto login for Amazon setup on mom's computer?

Speeding ticket happens to everyone. I would not make an issue of it unless it happens again.

You have a reliable caregiver that are very hard to find. Talk to her and ask why, give her the benefit of the doubt. Then secure mom's Amazon account. Is it used to purchase items for mom, by the caregiver? I can easily see that this was a mistake.
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looloo Nov 2019
Hi gladimhere,
My mother doesn’t use her computer at all (thank God). And this wasn’t her Amazon account, it was the caregiver’s :(.

Yeah, I felt the same way about the ticket. Thanks for validating me - I wonder if I’m a total pushover and that’s why this is happening, but it helps to know that I’m probably keeping this in perspective.

I’m having a hard time believing that this was not deliberate. But I am willing to consider that, having her payment methods on her Amazon account obviously “adjusted” to remove my mother’s credit card within 24 hours of her purchase, she may have some remorse and maybe a little healthy anxiety about being caught. I’d like that to be good enough for me. I just don’t want to give someone another chance and have it bite me in the ass, but if this is what I’m gonna do, then I have to take that chance.
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Maybe it was something your mother needed? I agree with Tothill, ask her. If it was something your mother needed/wanted caregiver should have called you to get your okay first.
I know how hard it is to find good caregivers and am aghast at what agencies take out of their pay. It’s hard to find a good caregiver who will work for $13 to $15 an hour. We went through 5 caregivers in a year until we found our gem.
Good luck
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looloo Nov 2019
Hi PatienceSD,
if it were something my mother needed, she could/would have just told me. Either I would have ordered it myself using my mother’s credit card, or they would go purchase it directly and use her credit card then. The fact that she ordered something on her own amazon account (not my mother’s, which has had no activity in years), to be delivered to her own home address, is 100% sketchy.
I appreciate your understanding how difficult it is to decide to let go a caregiver that, up to now, has been really really good.
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Confront her, ignoring this will not stop her from helping herself. Give her one warning, if it happens again let her go. Tell her exactly this and if necessary follow through.
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looloo Nov 2019
Thanks DollyMe,
part of me totally agrees with you, and part is just not there yet. But I do NOT want to give the impression that I’m a doormat, or oblivious.
Thank you for responding :)
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Did you talk to the caregiver? Is there any chance Mum asked her to make a purchase on her behalf?

I would pick up the phone and tell her you got a fraudulent use of card alert and canceled the transaction. Let her know amazon has told you whose account the transaction was made under. Then ask for an explanation.

It may be time for Mum to lose the credit card.
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freqflyer Nov 2019
I was thinking the same thing.... that maybe your Mom asked the caregiver to order something. Or it was an honest mistake, thus in the rush to caregive [which isn't easy] the caregiver mistakenly used the wrong credit card. I remember using my boss' credit card to purchase something in an office supply store for myself, just by habit. I reimbursed the company.

Let's gather all the facts before blaming a caregiver that you have had for 3 years, and whom you and your Mother likes

Usually if a person is likely to "steal" something they would have started during the first year of their employment, not 3 years later.
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