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When my father died and I called the credit card company to cancel his credit card I asked them to send a final bill so I could pay it off. I was told by them that I was not responsible for the balance, to send a copy of the death certificate, the account would be closed. I did, the account was closed and I did not have to pay the outstanding balance. I asked for a letter that the account was closed and I received one promptly.
This is one of my favorite topics, since I was executor for three different deceased persons. No one, and I do mean no one needs, or is required to pay the credit card bills of another person with these exceptions. 1) There was more than one name on the account, one of whom is currently still alive). 2) You turned the bills over to an estate lawyer who may wish to process them himself/herself. Here is a plan: Trot on down to the courthouse in which the deceased was domiciled. Bring along copies of the death certificate and all bills owed by the deceased. ( current). Fill out forms for the clerk in which a NOTICE TO DEBTORS AND CREDITORS appears at the top of the page. Make copies for yourself. Fill out envelopes for the clerk. Enclose death certificate and bill in each envelope with the court's return address on it. Apply postage. Wait 90- 120 days. If no answer has been received by the court, you are under no obligation to pay anything.. If a creditor or debtor comes forth after the 120 dyas, their claim is considered "untimely" and will be rejected by the court.
Reverseroles: Yes, I did employ a lawyer, and he sent out forms to all family members. He also included a copy of the deceased will to each sibling, son, daughter and everyone who may have had a vested interest in the deceased's property, both real and personal. Each had to sign, date and notarize everything and return it to the lawyer's office. Time was of the essence here, and distributions were made only after all papers were back in the lawyers office. Some were anxiously awaiting their money, while others could care less.. I did receive wonderful thank-you notes stating that the process was very well-handled and professional.
Recently I lost my 2 daughter's & one of them had so many bills & I just had to send in a copy of the death certificate & I was not held responsible for any of her bills. My other daughter was married & I don't have any idea of what was done.
Reverseroles, I was executor of my Mom's estate. I have 5 siblings and also kept up with all the paperwork. I made 5 copies of everything, bank statements, death certificate , anything pertaining to her estate. I bought 5 nice folders and arranged everything in chronological order. I also ordered 5 copies of the obituary and enclosed that along with a copy of Mom's birth certificate. My siblings all really appreciated , the professional way it was given, to each of them. We have always been a close family and I wanted to keep it that way. They had a right to know everything about the estate , that I knew. I did not need an attorney . Just a little time and very little money. Hope things go well with you and your family, too.
unless your name is on the bills also then and only then are you responsible for them. other than that make copies of the death certificate and send to each one. Most are happy with a copy a very few may need an orginal. I just went thru this with my mom who past away this past April. You have my heart felt sympathy.
Barbee - don't rush into doing anything. At some point in time all the creditors will need to be notified about the death. If you don't have a few original death certificates, I would suggest you order those first. They seem to be the more you order the cheaper, so do a rough count of creditors, insurance policies and get enough to send an original to each. (For TX the first is $ 12 and each add'l is $4 and can take a month+ if not ordered right after death).
If there was an life insurance policy, I'd deal with getting that paid to the beneficiary first & foremost. Unless the beneficiary was her estate, then whomever is named, well the $$ is all theirs. They have no need to use any of it to pay the debts that mom could have left. So if mom named you as beneficiary, then it's all yours. You do not have to use the $ to pay on any of mom's debts. You can if you want to but do not have to.
If the CC were in her name, the debt is not yours to pay. Ever.
If she had any real property - like home, land, car - then you may need to go through probate to deal with these and change the ownership as per her will. If there was no will, then she is considered to have died "intestate" - this is more complex. Probate & death laws are really state specific, so you need an probate attorney to deal with it. Some states are probate easy & some states have a whole "small estates" probate system &/or a "muniment of title" option which is easy, straightforward & low cost. Personally I think probate is a good thing to do as it cleanly & clearly establishes settlement on the person.
Again no need to rush to do anything. You are still dealing with a loss, take your time and don't feel pressed to sign any checks. My sympathy to you too.
I don't think a Visa company would just cancel the remaining balance, if it's worth their time, they would likely go file a claim against the Estate in probate court.
My MIL recently passes and my husband is the executor etc. We are definitely going to pay all the bills. It is just the right thing to do. If the debt was incurred, it needs to be payed.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Here is a plan: Trot on down to the courthouse in which the deceased was domiciled. Bring along copies of the death certificate and all bills owed by the deceased. ( current). Fill out forms for the clerk in which a NOTICE TO DEBTORS AND CREDITORS appears at the top of the page. Make copies for yourself. Fill out envelopes for the clerk. Enclose death certificate and bill in each envelope with the court's return address on it. Apply postage. Wait 90- 120 days. If no answer has been received by the court, you are under no obligation to pay anything.. If a creditor or debtor comes forth after the 120 dyas, their claim is considered "untimely" and will be rejected by the court.
Some were anxiously awaiting their money, while others could care less..
I did receive wonderful thank-you notes stating that the process was very well-handled and professional.
If there was an life insurance policy, I'd deal with getting that paid to the beneficiary first & foremost. Unless the beneficiary was her estate, then whomever is named, well the $$ is all theirs. They have no need to use any of it to pay the debts that mom could have left. So if mom named you as beneficiary, then it's all yours. You do not have to use the $ to pay on any of mom's debts. You can if you want to but do not have to.
If the CC were in her name, the debt is not yours to pay. Ever.
If she had any real property - like home, land, car - then you may need to go through probate to deal with these and change the ownership as per her will. If there was no will, then she is considered to have died "intestate" - this is more complex. Probate & death laws are really state specific, so you need an probate attorney to deal with it. Some states are probate easy & some states have a whole "small estates" probate system &/or a "muniment of title" option which is easy, straightforward & low cost. Personally I think probate is a good thing to do as it cleanly & clearly establishes settlement on the person.
Again no need to rush to do anything. You are still dealing with a loss, take your time and don't feel pressed to sign any checks. My sympathy to you too.
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