We have been dealing with "Mom" issues for many years. She is 94 years old and until recently, lived in her own home with sporadic aides. She has mobility issues, incontinence, severely hard of hearing (refuses to wear her hearing aides), is addicted to opiates and ambien (thanks to her primary doctor) and more. She does not want to pay for services but her assets are too great for her to be eligible for social services. I live out of state but until December 1, I had spent two years near her. I actually took a job near her to do this but left my house, children, spouse etc. to do so.
On December 3, Mom fell. Ended up in the hospital. Then a rehab facility. Then to a beautiful assisted living which she agreed to as the plan after rehab. She lasted less than one day and then wanted "out"!. Unfortunately she tested positive for covid and was transferred to a skilled nursing facility. She did not have to leave the AL but refused to isolate so they transferred her to a covid unit where she could get out of her room.
I have been called repeatedly to take her out of the SNF unit. She has demanded that I care for her in her home and threatens to take a taxi home. I am in her home now. I left my home so I could be here to support her transition to AL. Not enough for her. My siblings, who live closer, are separating themselves from her. This is truly an untenable situation. I do not feel capable, in my 60's. to provide the extensive care she needs.
My mother is coherent and appears to have good mental health. She is, however, a hoarder and an addict. She has had a fire in her home and fires aides at a drop of a hat. (one because she was fat and would eat too much).
What to do?!? Does anyone know of a legal reason I can keep her in assisted living? She is a hairsbreadth away from requiring nursing home care. I would prefer AL if possible. Please, I need advice.
Do nothing, let the professionals take care of her. If she is truly capable of living on her own she will manage to remove herself on her own.
It is too bad she is resisting AL. That is so preferable to SN but I don't know if you can reason with her. You can try with kind but firm ultimatums. My mother is in SN after years in AL. I am 65. I know people may think I have it easy and I know I do so more than those with parents at home but I still have to stay on top of the situation. We just attended a care meeting last week which seemed to go well and then I found out yesterday that a CNA yelled at her for not being able to use the toilet. She had to spend months having femurs heal after being dropped. She then developed a very serious bedsore which is likely to never heal. A salve for that presently costs over $900.00 every time the facility requires the prescription filled. There is a co pay which will go down yet presently it is quite high. We are responsible for what the facility caused.
I looked into moving her but she did not want that. Eventually I may have to. There are positives which give her comfort and the majority of the staff is decent. They are presently having to hire outside help due to Covid shortages and it is conceivable that some of that help may be verbally abusive.
All of this could drive me insane but I am determined to try and focus on the positive while trying to alleviate and work against that which is not. My son is getting married in 6 months and I want to be happy for him and his lovely and kind fiance.
You ask understandably what you can do. There is not much with your mother's present attitude. I reiterate the ultimatums. I truly understand that difficulty. As my husband used to say no one wakes up one day and feels like it is a perfect day to enter AL.
I hope you find the strength to continue but you have to come to the realization that your mother cannot make choices she hopes for. I hate to say walk away but unless there are changes your personal life will suffer and then the situation has taken someone else out who still has viability. Many have been on this difficult path if that helps you at all. Decide what you are capable of and stick to that. There has to be some inner strength and it is doubtful that will be present in your mother.
I'm sure your siblings would like for you to come back and do it again. Don't be so sure they will give you much help in the discussion you are planning to have.
We all sense your wavering by some phrases you've used (already posted about).
I like the idea of letting the POA sib handle it. The facility can call them.
Interesting that your mother expects YOU to be the live-in caregiver, yet didn't give you POA. (My own mother did that to me, too.)
Please keep us updated. Oh, and one more thing...do NOT accept even "temporary" responsibility for her discharging herself from the NH. Realize that this means the NH will wash their hands of her. Promised "help" will not materialize. They may get ugly about it. You have the perfect excuse to tell them to contact the POA sister. And please GET OUT OF TOWN before she leaves the NH!
Tell the NH that you are going back to your home. Give them POA sister's phone number and let them figure it out.
Your mom sounds like her own worst enemy.
It's sad when people can't see where their own best interests lie, but that doesn't make you responsible to give up your family to cater to her notion that she's independent.
I've just snipped out that part as that looks to be as the super-glue keeping you stuck here.
It may be F.O.G wafting over you? (Fear, obligation, guilt)
I wonder if between the "Mom needs care" part & the "no regrets" there is an invisible sentence..? Something like *I need to provide her care*.
That's where I was. I was acting on this invisible instruction. When I caught a glimpse of it, I looked hard to understand it. In my case if was a childhood of having younger siblings to be responsible for, to look out for their safety. Not only would this gain positive attention from one parent, extended family & society, I also tried to shield them from the mental health issues of the other parent. I had to re-assess & step out of the FOG. Let some real life consequences fall.
Sameoldstory, in your case some real world consequences DID fall on your Mother: she was moved from AL for not isolating into a secured setting. This makes good common sense for the protection of others.
Now your Mom is no longer independent enough to live alone. That has been established. AL would be a good fit... IF she wants to be there & IF she will/can abide the rules.
So advise Mother of her options. Let her decide. The real world consequences will fall.
"Live alone, with home help.
If you fire home help, you will be removed from your home at the first accident, fall, other crises".
As a Doctor once read the riot act to his patient on his rounds in front of me "Sir! Choose your nursing home! I've told you many many times. Choose or others will choose for you! You cannot look after yourself anymore. You are old, sick & need to move. So move yourself or others will!"
The decisions to accept aging, downsize & move are easy & make sense to some.
For others, due to cognitive decline, dementia, stroke damage, mental illness, substance abuse or personality - they cannot.
Chips will fall.
If your friends and extended family are pressuring you, and you need some support and suggestions on what to say to them, make a new post and ask your question.
Are you on good terms with your siblings? If so, talk to them, get their side of the story and why/how they were able to step away. Get support from them so you can step away for your own sake.
Your siblings are wise (and probably not co-dependent or enabling) to put up a healthy boundary. Your immediate family has priority over your mother. I'm sorry...unless you want to lose them as well as your own sanity. Leave and call APS to get her on their radar. When she calls you tell her you can't do what she is asking. No. Nope. Negatory. Don't take any verbal manipulation or abuse from her. Hang up. I wish you much clarity, wisdom and peace in your heart.
I can tell you right now that even WITHOUT doing any caregiving, being responsible legally for someone is a tremendous amount of work. In the case of someone uncooperative it is impossible.
Your moving in with your Mother or having her move in with you will only delay and complicate current problems exponentially.
You will, of course, have to make this decision for yourself. I wish you the very best in coming to your own conclusion. Just because you are the last man standing doesn't mean you are obligated to go down with this ship.
The daughter, like you, had no other choice but to leave her mother be to live her own life on her own terms. She had to wait for a crisis to hit before she could have mother placed in a SNF at the demand of the hospital doctor. That never happened though; mother wound up taking a fall and was found on the floor by the daughter who called 911. The mother was rushed to the hospital and placed on hospice care; she'd had a stroke, if I remember correctly, and passed away a couple of weeks later.
The mother lived life on HER terms, but at her daughter's expense. Yours is doing basically the same thing.
You will likely have to wait for a crisis to happen before your mother can be placed, against her wishes, in a Skilled Nursing Facility permanently. Too bad she won't accept AL now, which we all know is preferable to Skilled Nursing, but this is what often happens to stubborn elders who refuse to be reasonable. Sad but true.
Don't wind up like the daughter in the first part of the story; she felt so guilty about her mom passing away that she left our forum permanently. She was in no way responsible for what happened to her mother, but she felt that it was her fault. An elder's stubborn behavior is NOT something we daughters have any way of controlling, so we should never take the outcome of that behavior as a burden onto our own shoulders to bear.
Wishing you the best of luck with this situation, no matter how it turns out.
Surprisingly, Mom lives in a lovely upper middle class neighborhood. The police and fire chief have been in her home. They have never acted. Very disheartening.
Arrange for cognitive/neuropsychiatric/social competence testing, done by someone with appropriate credentials and geriatric experience.
It may be both helpful and necessary for you to stop answering her phone calls.
If you are sure that you are not legally responsible for her, refuse to take her out of the SN unit on the grounds that you are not capable of caring for her.
In your situation, I’d also confer ASAP with a lawyer with an established practice in the field of family/geriatric care.
If she is able to leave she may wind up placing herself in a situation in which she will be vulnerable to injury, but there is no fair reason for you to feel obliged to be responsible for her.
Has she granted anyone her POA? If she NEEDS SN care, it is in HER best interest as well as yours, to place her there.
Your situation is difficult, but it’s by no means unique. Take good care of yourself. You’re important too!
Thank you so much for the suggestion for competency testing. We will investigate that as well.
In my book, I will go to the nth degree to support an elder in my family who has insight into their limitations and who cooperates with care plans.
If they start thinking that they can direct me to do their bidding at the cost of my own self-preservation and health, that's when I step away and let the state take over their care.
I did point out that a cohesive conversation is not an indication of stable mental health and reminded the doctor and facility of her history.
I know I should step away. So hard to do though...
DO NOT not move in with your mother and become her caregiver. She will eat you alive and spit you out by lunch time. Your siblings decided to stay clear of her, and for very good reasons.
Call the SNF where she is currently, tell them clearly that there is no one to care for her at her home. None. You are not available. No one is available. They can't discharge her if it's unsafe to do so.
If somehow, your mother manages to call a taxi and get herself home, call APS and report vulnerable elder and let them take it from there.