I posted this in the "whine" thread earlier....but I think it might be deserving of it's own thread, for those who want to complain or contemplate the issue, and also to share tips on how they got their parents to accept outside help. This seems to come up a LOT, all over the forum. This is what I wrote (slightly edited):
Why is it that so many aging parents don't see how exhausted and stressed out their caregiver children are? Why can't they see how much work this is? Or do they just not care?
I mean, just reading around in different threads - it's not just dysfunctional families, it's ALL kinds of families.
Like, why DO parents insist that their kids should and must be able to do the work of several paid workers? EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY?
Why do they get so upset and resistant about allowing paid - or even volunteer - help come in to actually HELP their children?
Why do they insist that their kids be totally available to them, sometimes 24 hours a day, without allowing anyone from outside the family to spell them off?
What was all that "I don't want to be a burden" b.s. for, anyway?
My mom was like this even before her mind started going downhill. So it's not just dementia. It started with me driving 350 km every 2-3 weeks because she refused to hire someone to rake the lawn. (But she'd pay my gas and feed me that weekend....which all cost a lot more than hiring someone!)
I am really grateful for home support. I could NOT do this without them. But it was worse than pulling teeth to get my mom to accept even a minimal amount in the beginning. She still gripes about them coming in, even though they are 10x more patient with her than I am.
If it's payback for raising us, well.....it's not like our parents never got babysitters, or put us in daycare, or sent us to summer camp/granny's house so THEY could hold down a job and/or get a break.
I’m a long distance caregiver. My folks are in care now but not before years of driving me nuts by refusing any and all,help. I had to wait them out, finally a bad fall then hospital to AL move.
My mom is coming up on 87. Without drugs and major medical,interventions she would have died at about 70. She has had about .02% quality of life for the last 5 years. Mom loved it when I’d make the trip and spend a week cleaning, cooking, fixing, driving etc. but meals on wheels? Cleaning service? No way. We’re just fine!
Mom lived with me for 10 years, the First 6 years or so pretty indepently.
We pretty much did everything together.
Before mom, I had a Bonus Mom Wonderful Lady, very kind loving and a hugger. Pretty much the opposite of my mother. I looked after her for 10 years, the time between her husbands (Bonus Dad) passing and hers. The last three years with her she had dementia, and heart problems, her dementia caused visions which were hard to deal with.
Just as she passed, my mother was showing signs of Dementia.
It's a long process as many know. My Sister lived 400 miles away and my own children were very little help and lived nearby.
When I became too stressed we would go to my Sisters where my nieces and sister would help. Then when they needed a break I would being her home for a while. We had traveled back and forth for 60+years so it wasnt any thing new to mom and it was her home originally that my sister lives in.
After the decision was made to take Mom to my Sisters and stay there for the duration, mom was diagnosed with liver cancer, she lasted almost 8 months.
I wasn't ready for that, as I had projected in my mind a long stay taking care of at my sisters.
During this time I came across a sign that says "You will never regret doing the right thing" I believe it and keep the sign near.
I have many good memories, a lot of them are Pictures and selfies that I took when we were out together.
Fortunately I was retired when mom started living with me, but that meant 24/7 in the last 3+ years.
I would take a do over, not to see her suffer, but to hug her more and tell her more she is loved. My Sister and I didn't grow up with that compassion from either of our parents and where we lived there was only the 4 of us.
You do your best and hope it's enough, but not matter when it's all over you still wish you had done better.
My suggestion today would be give Mom or Dad or both a Hug today and reassure them you Love them.
No matter what else the day brings it will help all of you.
It’s a b#### to know what she’ll be facing and not just want to abandon my own precarious sanity to be the rescuer and mother she never had.
This morning I realized one of my issues is sorting through my need to have a heart vs. my need to be perceived as having a heart.
I am working through my empathy issues with a new awareness that bottomless empathy will kill me and my primary relationship. And yet, I feel selfish as I have a drive and imprinting to put others first, especially when they are in crisis. It seems absurd to be torn up about this, given that there are so many helps available to Sis and she refuses them.
That is just the way it is. Our parents care for us until we can care for ourselves and when they get old it is our turn to care for them. And believe me, they are very pained to watch their children experience pain and suffering along with them due to caring for them. Those that can express it will continuously tell their kids that they are sorry they are such a burden. But at the same time they are very grateful if they can have the comfort of their own child caring for them instead of some stranger (that for all we know might actually abuse or neglect them). Your turn will come and you will get old and then you will understand. If we can try to understand as best as we can, how another person feels about what they are going through, then it would be easier to accept it.
I just spent the last two years being the live in caretaker for both my parents. Mom with breast cancer and dad with kidneys and COPD. I myself have COPD but as the child it was my responsibility to care for them. I knew that and I accepted it. Mom passed on November 22, 2017 and dad passed on Feb. 25, 2018, 3 months and 3 days after mom. Yes, it was hard. At times it was very hard. But how could I, in good conscience, accept my inheritance if I didn't do my best to care for them? They were both on hospice in our home, in their home, but I was their main caretaker and I was there when both passed.
I am not saying that it is easy. It never is, but I hope that my own kids will not just dump me off on some medical strangers and go off on their own lives (which I did give them). I am making sure that their inheritance will make up for it. But I hope that I have taught them that is not why they should do it. God made us to serve others. Even Jesus washed the disciples feet.
Honoring your parents is not a commandment from God to give up your life, it is about respecting them. Adult offspring are no longer children, let's be clear about that. I am a Christian and I love The Lord and I know His word. His spirit is not about hurting others with His word. When my parents, who never introduced me to The Lord, start truing to guilt me with His word, I tell them that it is unfortunate that they did not raise their children as a loving family. I honor my parents by making sure they are cared for, it's more than they did for me. So please stop making hateful comments using the bible to beat people up with. You don't know the whole story nor the actual realities that people were raised under. Would you SHAME a woman that was sexually assaulted by her dad to shut up and care for him in his old age because he provided a house, clothes, food etc for her when she was young, kids have no choices, adults do.
• Their adult children don't say no.
• They are lonely and crave human interaction.
So, the antidote is:
• Set boundaries. If there is a negative impact on your life or your family, evaluate what support you can provide for your parent and then help them come up with a plan to meet the rest of their needs. As long as you say yes, being overcommitted is your fault.
• Get your parent a social life! Their children may be their only remaining relationships and that's not healthy (neither emotionally, mentally, or even physically).
If your parent has the resources, your parent's quality of life can be greatly improved by a move to community living. Ignore your parent's objections, do the research, and start planning.
1) If you're not caregiving your parent(s), please don't tell the rest of us how to feel about it.
2) Looking after your parent(s) isn't remotely the same as looking after a child, who can easily be lifted, changed, disciplined, put in time out, etc.. Children are also capable of learning; adults with dementia are only capable of regressing.
3) Don't assume our parents looked after all of us, or looked after us well.
4) Most of our parents didn't look after US without help, i.e.: babysitters, daycare, free babysitting from grandma, summer camp, summers at grandma's and/or....oh, having TWO parents to spell each other off, instead of being just one adult child caregiver. Many of these same parents are the ones now rejecting supports like home care ("babysitters").
5) Many of us now caregiving grew up in a different time, when children were released to the "wilds" after breakfast and told not to come back till supper time. I wouldn't try that with an AZ adult.
6) Among those of our parents who DID do hands on caregiving, very, very few of them them had 100+ year old parents when they themselves were in their 80s. Science and technology have increased our life spans, but our health still worsens as we age. 40% of caregivers die before their loved ones.
7) Also please don't assume that we wouldn't prefer (in a heartbeat) that our parents spend their money (IF they have any) on professional care rather than saving it for an "inheritance" we never asked for. Indeed, many of us have begged them to do so.
Isthisrealyreal and Dorianne, thank both of you for your posts. Both of you said my thoughts better than I ever could.
Not every family is the same. DO NOT JUDGE!
You're right, there are not any borders when it comes to parents being as you described. That fact is, one parent maybe like this while the other is not. Just like their kids....all raised the same way, yet all turned out different as adults.
I think it comes down to the mentality that I took care of you, its your turn to take care of me even if it is not expressed.
If your parents were raised during the Depression Era, many still feel the need to hoard their money for A RAINY DAY and helping them should not come out of the rainy day fund. They worked hard for the money and it is there as an emergency net.
Have you tried hiring someone, call them once you get to your Mother's home, introduce as a person in dire straights needing a job in this economy. Then allow them to do the lawn. Afterward, have Mom inspect it and provide a critique. Then speak with both of them (remember this person must play the part) about the job done and have your Mom do most of the talking to become comfortable. Then discuss the pay schedule for the job to be done exactly as it was that day. Again, let Mom take the lead in the discussion so that she feels that she is in control. Should she agree with the terms, then visit a time or 2 when the person is there to do the job, compliment your Mom as to what a great choice she made and how great the job is being done for her.
Its like when women need to have things done around the house or items need to purchased for the house etc. We, as women have our own ways of turning that around so our husbands think its their idea.
Trust me, that's how our daughter has been able to get daddy to pay for appliances or daddy-dos through Mom!! Sure, she can afford being a nurse, but its more fun to get daddy to do it if possible. Then Mom/daughter laugh about how easy it is to guilt daddy into doing it.
Now your dad, of course you need to get involved to some extent, go to doctor with him, know whats going on, help organize affairs and make sure he is getting all assistance he can, make sure stuff is being started, applied for, whatever but never with any though that you will move in to make this happen. He is lucky to have you to help him through the quagmire of this, many elderly don't have family support and either have to do it themselves or the state does it. Your dad wont have to rely on a stranger entirely but you can only do what you can from a distance away, wherever it is you are, where your life is. He can't be your life once you make the transition from your mothers care being your life. Especially as an only child you can only do so much no matter what the relationship with each of your parents.
Going back to your mom, she wanted it that way. She didn't want it all to fall to you, to disrupt your life which is why she made the plans she did even if something is keeping her from using it at the moment. What would make the mother you have known and loved all your life, prior to her current illness, most happy is you being in her life as her daughter providing love and guidance, not her full time caregiver. I'm not suggesting you suddenly change everyone's lives and create upheaval, I imagine your current situation didn't happen overnight it happened gradually over time, taking on more and more until you suddenly realized your life had taken a 3rd row back seat, recapture it the same way. Reestablish your own life a little at a time, keep making the arrangements you do and each time he cancels them he can make sure the stuff get's done. Take the time for yourself to get a job, get involved, whatever it is that made you happy 3 years ago and filled your life. The happier you are the more benefit you will be for both parents and the more you will all get out of this time you have together. You mention being a single parent, is your child around?
She was diagnosed with a DVT (blood clot) in her leg last year, which seemed to kick off her slow-but-steady decline. The blood clot has been resolved, but her mind continues to unravel...and she's painfully aware of it, when she's not complaining about her knees, or her back, or the pain du jour.
She doesn't get why I need help when I have "plenty of time" to tidy up. She doesn't get why I need to bring in someone for respite care when SHE never left me with anyone else while she was working, and never went anywhere by herself for a vacation. (True, I am a former "latch key" kid.) I see where she is afraid, and how this makes her more clingy and passive-aggressive; yet I'm trying not to see caregiving as this Black Hole that's sucking my life away, and that tests my empathy.
I have caregiver support groups and classes that I take to try and keep an even keel. I have good days and not so good ones. At least I have a husband who reminds me to get out of my head, and out of the house, now and again.
I am picking up the slack, but my health is no great and my mental health is being tested daily. I actually need to work for money, even though I draw a check. I need to make that allowed extra income to get by with a cushion. Instead, I work 7 hours a day for $75 a week, just enough to barely get by. Yes, that is five days a week. I do it because if I didn't my mom would have to be there all the time and she can not handle that. Now, she gets to go do things she needs to do for her own home and her husband and grandchildren.
My grandmother is livid! How dare she have a life outside of this? How dare she not repay back all the love and care given to her as a child? How dare she want to not have a heart attack and die from the stress? Why, she should be grateful to die that way! That's what a real child would do for their parent!
Okay, that was a bit much, but not far from the target. Truth is, why are there so many cultures where the children take care of their parents, and we happen to live in one where it's the norm to place them in an old folks home? Truth is, it's life. It really just depends on what you have to do to get by and how you've set your final years up. We simply can't be everything to everyone, though taking care of your parents is an honorable thing. Unfortunately, bad things happen, and that is just really scary. Strangers don't know you like your family does. Parents get scared enough to use the guilt trip, and guess what? It works! Because people are living longer, you find a multitude of geriatric people care taking for those 20 years older for years. This is why there are geriatric law lawyers and POAs. Sometimes you have to push past their fear and do what is right for them. If you can't give them the care they need, then hire someone who can and roll with it.