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My mom is in the last stages of Polio, her muscles are tearing away from her body. She has COPD, and late stage alzheimers. On top of that, from the Polio she has been in a wheelchair for aprox. 40 years. She is turning 78 this year. Two month's ago I found a Decubitis Ulcer on her bottom. There is nothing the doctors can do because she doesn't remember going to the doctor, let alone what they say. I take care of all her needs. Everyday is a fight. I am her only daughter and the one who gave up her life to help my parents. But yet I am the one she is scared of and cusses out like a sailor, most of the time she thinks I'm the woman trying to take her husband away. The things that come out of her mouth are shocking. The hardest part is I knew my mom, she has a triple masters degree in Psychology and was an Adult Protection Supervisor for 30 years. This woman is in constant pain, and always says she just wants to die. I feel her passing would finally give her peace, because she doesn't have it on earth. If I knew how to help her, I would. Unless you've truly lived with someone with Alzheimers, you don't know.
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how do i know the end is near for my 90 year old mom?
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Hugemom, don't be so sure when she "reveals things about her past" that they are true. My 83-year-old mother, who is as honest as the day is long, has begun to tell people about her "first marriage" to a man named "Joe." Who she is talking about we have no idea, as she married my father at age 17 and they were married for over 60 years. She wasn't even dating anyone named Joe during high school. Then there is my husband's father, who in the nursing home used to tell highly entertaining stories about how he was born in Canada, orphaned as a child, etc. etc.--none of which were true
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My mother is 95 and has always been a victim and a drama queen. I am an only child, so growing up, I was the target of her verbal abuse. I recently discovered that 50 years ago, when I was 12, her father committed suicide. This scared me that there was some mental disorder in me as well. My doctor said suicidal tendencies aren't inherited, but I am still concerned anyway. Whenever I go to see her at the Home, she says she's ready to go. I am sure she is. It will mean peace for both of us. The longer she lives and the more bad memories come to light about my childhood and her moodiness and negativity, I'm not sure how much more I can take. When she is coherent as she can be, she often reveals things about her past that should have remained unsaid. Don't feel guilty or apologetic. Don't feel you need to weep and wail when she does go, either. They say counselling may help,,and if I could afford it, I would go. Take care of yourself. You are important and your life matters.
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Your Not Alone. Your Mom is Set in Her Ways!
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2much, yes find care for dad that he needs. Ask for help from Adult Protective Services. This situation is only going to become more difficult. So many feel guilt when it gets to the point of realizing that the care has become overwhelming. All any of us can do is the best we can. The large majority of us reach the point that, for OURSELVES, we will not continue to provide the care.
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toomuch4me, your thinking is human. In my opinion you need to get out of this situation. You are being abused and there's no reason to take it.

If no one else will take care of him, call social services. Even if his behavior is caused by dementia, it doesn't seem to be a good situation for you or even for him. You aren't bad for thinking this way, but it's time to make different arrangements.
Take care of yourself while you still can.
Carol
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Im ashamed of my thoughts but I will say them, I loathe the man I live with who I used to call Dad. He has decided to constantly remind my sister that she and I are not related and that she should not take up time with my children. He is purposely rude and evil . I cannot stand the sight of him. But Im sure he will outlive me, because of all of the stress I have to go through dealing with him every day. I have even thought that everyone would be better off if I were the one to die because every day dealing with him is nothing but frustration and me feeling depressed.
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Take yourself out of the picture. Find a care home with skilled professionals who will have seen so many patients like your mother and will know how to deal with her. Maybe she also needs a break from your sandpaper relationship, and maybe nursing care is what she longs for. Afford it, then give her space for a while.
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Psycholgy has studies of children wishing their parents dead, and also the guilt that ensues if they really do die. The children-thinking they were the cause due to their thoughts. At that stage of development, it is not considered pathology.
These thought are part of the human condition, the mind. One can research this online, if still interested in the OP's question.
Is it wrong?
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cmagnum, my mom used that threat but I never took her seriously. Unfortunately, because of mom's threat, which we both knew was just melodrama, my sister didn't want to make her "unhappy" and stalled and stalled for almost 3 years about moving her to AL. I was doing 80% of the work taking care of her, so I knew how bad she was getting, plus, selfishly, I needed a break. I had to browbeat the doctor, listing all her dementia behaviors in writing before she indicated Alzheimers on her physical form which resulted in the AL informing they would not renew her lease. Then she had no choice.
For those of you in that position where your parent won't move out of IL - that is the only solution. IL will not allow an Alzheimers patient to live there alone.
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I have no respect for a parent who threatens suicide to terrify their children and thus keep them in line. Suicide is horrible and faking it for the sake of control is abuse.
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I think I have posted here before, but this is a subject that causes one to pause and think...my mother is only alive because she takes so many drugs to keep her so. She was suicidal (I don't know if it was "real" or a threat she used to keep us kids in line and constantly horrified all our lives)...but now that she is a widow and has money enough and no responsibilities at all except for playing and making herself happy--she actually seems kind of happy. Her health is atrocious, she can barely walk, but LOVES all the attention that she gets and plays the "old lady" to the HILT. It's weird to me. I don't hope she dies, I really barely think about her. Women in her family live well into their 90's despite the dire predictions of her drs, I think she will make it to 90 and then some.

I just hope when she does go, it is quick and not some horrible lingering thing.

And no, I personally don't think it's "wrong" to hope someone dies. If you are suffering and there is no real respite or hope--yes, I would hope that person could die with some dignity and w/o drama. Alas, this doesn't often happen.
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They surely can. I take my dad to the animal shelter often. It's a great uplift to him.
Wish he could have a pet where he lives but that's not an option.
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Cak, first off, who is going to do that? Euthanasia techs burn out quickly and shelters have them work only 4 hours a week. The other problem is-- who decides? Family that wants the estate? Doctors who want to bury their mistakes? Good God not the government!
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Our furry friends can be put out of their misery when they decline; why can't humans? This country is just so twisted and at times, it makes no sense.
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My mom luckily has good days but when she doesn't she's awful. These awful days are happening more and more.
She doesn't like their assisted living facility now. Driving my dad bonkers with constant complaining when she IS awake. Spends most of her time hiding in their room.
It's awful. Sometimes I wonder how she is still alive after everything she's been through medically. For what purpose? She'll never have the real peace she craves until she dies. She doesn't try. Refuses to exercise. Refuses to join in any of the activities there. I seriously feel sorry for her (what that must be like to be so miserable so often) but the truth is I can't listen to her whine anymore oh and everything is about HER. It's effecting me too much. I told her so last night. I'm done. Today I take my dad out and spend time with him. As for my mom....she can just sleep her days away. I can't change her. Someday she'll pass on and when she does I'll be fine and so will she.
As you can tell by my note....yesterday was not a good day. I am just very grateful they have the money to live where they do. She'd have killed me a long time ago if I had to have her living here.
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So true Lassie. Mom passed a month ago. My sister and I were able to admit to ourselves yesterday that we are glad she is gone because watching her decline and have no quality of life for five months in a NH was painful, for her and for us. For years she said she would kill herself if she ever had to go into a NH, and there she was, living the nightmare she feared the most with no choice. She was 101, and had lived a long healthy life. Now she is with my father. And now, after 10 long years of worry and caring for her, my sister and I can try to recover our own health after dealing with the stress and its toll on our own bodies and families. I miss who Mom used to be, but not the shell she became the last few years. That wasn't my mother, and she would not have chosen to be like that if she had been in her right mind.
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It's not that we wish a loved one ill, it's not that we hate them, but it's only natural when they decline and decline year after year, sucking the very life force out of our souls, to wish it was just over. Everyone in our position is prepared for the end, and when it comes, they say how it is truly a blessing their loved one is free. (and of course, they are, also!) I have a mother in a nursing home, shows no sign of meeting her maker any time soon, but she is just a shell. I also have a disabled mentally ill relative I look in on, he is just a 300 lb. paranoid sad hulk, who can barely set foot outside his group home. Both of them, I often wonder why god lets them linger on and on and on in a twilight life. Not for me or anyone else to know, suffering is what we have on earth, some more than others. If there was any quality to their lives, any hope of recovery, any joyful human connection, I would feel differently. But its not for me to say. We all soldier on till its our time.
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Hi BelleFleur

I understand your concerns. I have worked with caregivers for many years. It is very possible every caregiver wishes for resolution to a loved one's illness. These are very trying times. Years ago when someone got to the point you describe they were in a nursing home and family caregivers could for the most part pick and choose when to visit.

Most often I have found that the caregiver is completely burned out. This is a dangerous situation for both the caregiver and the loved one. The concern for the family member is many times a catalyst to severe health problems of his or her own. And for the loved one it can be leading to some legal solutions, especially when the pattern of negativity is long-lived. We each have a point when it is best for all concerned if we take a break from each other.

Most important for caregivers we must take care of out own health as otherwise we will not be able to health when an emergent situation comes up. At this time in the caregiving journey it is better to take a break. This may not even cost for the care of the loved one. Most if not all communities have Respite Care. To check into this break from caregiving look in the white pages under Aging and Adult Care in the county section of the yellow pages (to day this may mean using the internet or checking with Hospice). We learn how much time you can get away from this situation without cost. Or a paid caregiver can be brought in (if this is the avenue we are wishing to take please hire from a reputable agency).

Take advantage of this time to get away from all stressors in our life. Take time to read that book we have wanted to read or go to that resort seen on T.V. There is usually some action that leaves us feeling good whether it is a hobby, an exercise program or visiting with friends. However, it is most important that we not go back to caregiving for at least two weeks. Two weeks gives our bodies time to allow us to be completely rested. Once rested we feel rejuvenated. It is not enough to be just rested but we need to feel good about ourselves.

And whether taking advantage of this advice or not, we need to begin a plan of caregiving which will allow us to afford us quality time away. There are entities that help us meet this goal. Each of us may find caregiving easier and more fulfilling with some rest and a plan we have created not that a situation has created.
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I know I have had these thoughts. I know mom would not want to be in this condition by choice. But, I do pray for Gods will and to not let her suffer. I know He has this.
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When you care for someone without relief from others, the weight of what you are going through both emotionally and physically will take a toll on you. We are afraid to admit that it is taking a toll on us and it does seem never ending and that yes we do wish that someone would die. We do not want to even speak those words because we will be thought of as a horrible person by family, friends, acquaintances and God. We are the care givers and we are wishing death on someone within our care. We may be our worst enemy and beat ourselves up over those thoughts.

We have been placed into a position of ongoing care for a parent or spouse or family member that we love but we either do not want to see them go through further pain and misery or we do not know how to escape the prison we have become locked into.

I can tell you from experience that if you can find ANY way of getting help or relief, take it! I never realized how much pressure I was under until I was no longer under it. By that time I was emotionally a wreck and had to be placed on anxiety medication, and have spent the last two years trying to get over/past it.

It is a normal reaction to at some point reach that time when you will wish that someone in your care would pass on. They may be relieved of pain but in that moment you will have regained your life. Do not beat yourself up over these thoughts.....we have all been there.
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It seems the most difficult people live the longest. It is very unfair that some of us have to deal with difficult elderly family members, Unfortunately that is life
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Feeling so many emotions all at once is something I have come to realize is part of the caregivers thought process. One day at a time....I tell myself to do this but my mind continues to race forward.
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It's normal for the caregiver to want relief from the often overwhelming responsibility, and even more so if they are witnessing misery.

AngieJoy and Lassie, you both need some relief. Do not let any guilt seep in. I hope that you can find some relief or another method of care for those for whom you are responsible.

Your elders' lives will end when they end and often times that intense,long-term caregiving can take a terrible toll on the caregiver. You elders' don't want your health to go down while you're caring for them (mental or physical).

If you can't get some relief, at least try to remember each thing we do is a day at a time. Sometimes it's not as overwhelming when we break it down like that rather than think "this will go on forever." Best to you both and everyone else expressing these painful emotions.
Carol
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Is it wrong to hope someone dies? NO. After today, I don't know if it's ME or THEM I want to die.
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My dad has multiple medical issues, but, in my opinion at least, he still has a relatively good quality of life. I don't want him to die and lose all of the little pleasures and comforts that he still enjoys, but I do want relief from the overwhelming sense of responsibility that I have for him.
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Nancy Reagan's daughter's reaction to her mother's dying, she said it was not unexpected,, she was 94. It is hard for anyone to lose anyone at any age...So, it is okay to mourn and to process this part of nature... It's natural....We all deal with someone with issues some time or some day in our lives. And in our own ways. anyway, it's okay.... I don't know why my mom is still around, perhaps I am not ready to let her go yet........ :(
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This question was asked back in 2012...And the reason it's on now, is because someone in the world is asking the same question now... It is ok,,,, Death happens, at one time or another, we are going to die, some way some how. As in the book Tuesdays with Morrie, it is quoted, "We are part of nature, death is part of nature." I haven't read the book yet, but hope to in the near future before nature happens to me....
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I read the obits all the time. I have also survived surgical procedures including a hysterectomy 10 years ago. I have been living in my own apartment now for the past six, and I go to senior center on Fridays to play bingo. It is so much fun and the people there are good to me even though I'm one of the youngest members ofthe group
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